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Old 12-11-2021, 08:44 AM   #13541
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I'll close this discussion out by saying I mostly agree with what everyone is saying and am certainly not trying to red pill anyone. The information available about planes and food are hardly as controversial as this particular vaccine roll-out. While I can appreciate the dot connections made by the red pill narrative I can safely say that lizard people don't run the world, there is no grand conspiracy to control the human race in an overlord manner, vaccines are not poison, doctors and healthcare workers are trying to help, most of the "anti-vax" rhetoric is perpetrated by attention seeking disruptors, protestors and those looking for attention by being abusive or disruptive are fucking assholes and need to be held accountable for their horrible actions. I believe when those in this thread think of an "anti-vaxxer" they think of those people.

The "pro-choice" people I am talking about are healthcare workers who chose to be let go rather than take the shot and degree-holders and logical thinkers who have zero reason to go against the grain or cause harm in their life are seeing signs that something dubious is afoot (I'm being general because I'm not here to debate info). That, in and of itself, is intriguing to me because it's not the wise path or a path of personal gain. Why put your credibility and reputation at stake by speaking out about what everyone else would call non-sense and hurt your future chances of making money and being able to provide for your family? Weird. I'm talking personal friends, not famous/infamous podcasters. Because I have people like this in my life it creates space for possible new info.

The biggest takeaway is that I hang with people who are not vaxxed on a weekly, and even daily basis, within my own social circle like it's 2018 with zero fear. Kids playing, adults socializing, no "safety" measures in place in these settings at homes. Nothing has changed for us as a 20+ years friend group other than a single personal choice to either get vaxxed or not. We chose to, others didn't. Whatever. Are we all dodging bullets here? I mean, what are the odds that we are all still alive with our carelessness? Are we all Tyrese Gibson in Fast 9 constantly in harms way but never a scratch? How can I act this way when there are others that put on a mask when they are alone in a car? I can feel JDMDreams audibly gasp at the mere thought of vaxxed and unvaxxed in the same space and might even report me to the authorities because of our selfishness. Yet, her we all are. Alive and well. Maybe we've collectively killed hundreds. Who knows.

In the end, it's all perspective. If I was JDMDreams or 320icar dealing with retarded assholes all day I'd be bitter as fcuk too and wouldn't have time to entertain alternative topics but more just try to get home safe to my family each day. I obviously believe in it enough to vaccinated so that says something but I still leave space for possible new info.
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