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Old 02-25-2022, 06:05 PM   #182
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp View Post
Reminder that Ukrainian citizens protested for many months when their government didn't sign for closer ties with the EU, instead choosing closer ties with Russia. That evolved into a full on popular revolution, and the president and his people were ousted (many committed suicide).

This is when Russia started covertly supporting the separatist movement, and then took Crimea

Also anecdotally growing up I had several Ukrainian friends and they'd be very quick to correct you if you called them Russian but everyone is different with this...

I don't know where you get "more than half" whatever, but it must be a weirdly worded poll or only done in the separatist regions or something. Ukraine has spent all this time trying to get out from under Russia's thumb, they finally succeeded, and now you think they all want to go back?
It's from the John Mearsheimer lecture posted

Yes there's a divide between nationalists and those supporting Russia, but again, Russia sees all Ukrainians as Russian so they wouldn't be targeting them en masse/directly as evidenced.

With Zelensky arming citizens and trying to get them to stay and fight he's trying to make Russia target citizens like America does (all of age males are considered enemy combatants) and that will cause the world to act out more against Russia
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