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Old 02-28-2022, 10:30 AM   #277
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp View Post
You got it backwards I think

Ukraine is lasting as long as it is because people are willing to step up and fight in numbers Russia didn't expect. They are doing this without direct help from NATO or EU (but that may be coming who knows) Their president is still there decked out in military gear, and they're willing to stand with him and fight until they are overwhelmed or Russia gives up. This is an easy one to get people to fight for, because there is a clear right and wrong. This is literally an evil action done by an evil person.

And yes there are Russian backed separatists, but not "over half" obviously, or the invasion would have been over after a few hours.

Even if they do succeed, it will be almost impossible to occupy Ukraine. That's why Zelensky is arming citizens, not to "make civilians into targets".
Been out for the weekend there's so many more pages but dragging this back

I wasn't stating that over half are separatist fighters

The point I was making is over half consider themselves ethnically Russian, so they don't hate Russia, and even support them by voting with an Eastern mindset instead of a Euro centric one, and Russia sees them and in fact all ukrainians as Russians, so they wouldn't want a messy war because they don't want to kill citizens

To inv4n counterpoint I meant by forcing citizens to fight by arming them (thereby causing their deaths) it would make Russia target citizens, which Russia clearly doesn't want to do, in hopes to pull the world in with actual boots on the ground

Anyway /shrug think we've moved passed that
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