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Old 02-28-2022, 10:07 PM   #323
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Read this on Reddit. A redditor tries to explain the full picture:

"There are a lot of armchair strategists trying to apply our logic to this without understanding the background. But getting wrapped up in tactics and equipment analysis misses the point - this thing has very little to do with tactics and everything to do with history, culture, and what Russians thought would happen vs. what actually happened.

Russians needed this thing done in 3 days tops. They’re behind the schedule and haven’t achieved any strategic objectives. This is because Putin can’t afford what looks like an actual war.

Russians don’t want to be killing Ukrainians. Period the end. Most Russians have relatives in Ukraine. These are not hostile nations.

He sold this thing to Russians as a limited “operation” to “help” the Ukrainians. He’s in full control of the media and so most Russians don’t yet know the full extent of what went down… but they will eventually.

This thing has already failed. It’s now a matter of how he gets out of this clusterfuck… he needs to either take Ukraine without killing a Ukrainians and Russians or find a way out where he can plausible declare some achieved objectives.

From all the interrogation videos a consistent picture is this:

Troops were told they were going to Belarus/Crimea for a training exercise (Putin needed to preserve the lie, so he lied to his own troops)

Most had their phones confiscated, officers included

Conscripts were forced to change to contract status (legal requirement in Russia to partake in hostilities).

Some were moved to the border then told to cross the border. Some tried to refuse but were threatened with prison.

Others were flown somewhere and dropped off and weren’t told for hours that they were already in Ukraine.

Some were told they were in Ukraine but they were told theyre still on a military exercise. (When one captive asked how it makes sense hat Russia would train on Ukraine territory… it was clear he never considered the absurdity of it before… he was very confused and then admitted that he got “fucked over”).

There is a recording posted earlier from a trooper describing how utterly unprepared they were and how one of his 3 battalions got obliterated immediately and another got no working tanks left.

6. Seems that only the more “elite” units were told they’re going on a “liberation” mission. They are confronted by civilians all over the place and are basically standing there embarrassed and dumbfounded.

Bottom line - Russian troops don’t want to be there. These are historically brotherly nations.

Putin was selling the same lies to his own people as he was trying to sell to the west.

And the soldiers are realizing they’ve been duped.

I saw videos of Russians walking up to civilians and offering surrender and an apology… once they realized what the fuck was happening.

It’s a blunder of epic proportions.

Russians, generally speaking, have no interest in killing Ukrainians. It’s Russia’s spiritual birthplace for real.

Putin out-KGB’d himself and now he has no idea what to do. He surrounded himself into an echo chamber of servants and no one dared to check his so-called strategy.

Now he’s shell shocked himself and running out of options."
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