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Old 03-02-2022, 03:46 PM   #416
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Originally Posted by mikemhg View Post
I think that's the main problem with this particular "war". so much misinformation/disinformation.

Both Russia and Ukraine are some of the biggest perpetrators of propaganda and misinformation than anywhere else in the world. It's becoming evident why information from this conflict has been so difficult to decipher or take as fact or fiction. Both sides are waging a war of information and narrative on one another, this makes things EXTREMELY murky at best.

It doesn't help that you also have the US/West also pushing their own agendas and misinformation out there as well, it really just muddles everything coming out right now.
This is both a dangerous narrative and a slippery slope...I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt for putting "war" in quotations.

Russia is one of the biggest perpetrators of propaganda and misinformation. They've been doing it literally for decades, and only exasperated with the internet & social media. How you can write a sentence as if somehow they're equal and have been equally guilty in disseminating fake news for as long as Russia is beyond me.

Yes, during war-time, there will be propaganda. It's been that way for a century. But it doesn't make things "murky" at all. Again, how you come to that conclusion is beyond me.

One country is clearly both the victim and the underdog, and no, it's not because I've succumbed to Ukrainian propaganda. AP is on the ground, as are numerous credible news agencies, corroborating stories that we see online, and they are being reported in literally every major news agency.

Ukraine claims Russian army is shit, they've lied to their soldiers, most of whom are very young. And that Russia is attacking civilian facilities, using tactics that verge on war crimes, and still that many are surrendering. All of this has been confirmed.

Russia claims Zelensky is a nazi, and the Ukraine government is terrorizing their own citizens. Not only is this completely unconfirmed, you'd have to be an absolute moron to believe it.

Yes, you need to constantly be skeptical these days, and no, you shouldn't blindly believe everything you read online without some fact-checking, but to declare that EVERYTHING must be fake and false...well, time to dust off your red hat then.

And lastly, yes the 'west' will have their agendas. But in this instance it's literally every single nation other than Russia and the 5 countries that voted against the UN resolution (and the 30 or whatever that abstained.) No, it probably won't lead to WW3, but it's definitely a "war".
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