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Originally Posted by mikemhg
That is categorically incorrect. There is no absolute need to challenge Roe v Wade which codifies abortion rights. Roe v Wade is integral not only to abortion but to other intimate human rights/relationships.
If Roe v Wade is struck down it essentially opens the door to unravel tied current rights, it's also tied to things like the right to procreate, access to contraception, intimate relationships, like the right to marry. All of which can be repealed and challenged on the state level if removed. Some state legislators are already cooking up ideas to ban rights to contraceptives, which in 2022 is fucking insane.
Some rights need to be codified to discourage bad actors. By your way of thinking we can also strike down the Civil Rights act, etc. Such rights can't be left to State legislators, plain and simple.
It's absolutely asinine to think so. If you want some Libertarian bastion, move the fuck to Sierra Leone.
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You are trying to generalize a Supreme Court decision, which is the ultimate decision-maker as far as judicial power is concerned.
The question presented to SCOTUS was whether or not the new law of prohibiting abortion beyond 14wks by a State is against the constitutional rights granted by US constitutions. This is why SCOTUS took the case, as they are the guardian of US constitutions.
The plaintiff is using Roe vs. Wade as an argument (not sure if it was the only argument, but I'm sure it was the principal argument of precedents), thus the SCOTUS need to revisit. And they did EXACTLY what SCOTUS is supposed to do: to interpret the law to the letters and make a decision.
You are arguing that this is a human rights issue. I don't disagree. But I also expect someone to draw a line somewhere, because otherwise, a single decision would have too great of an impact on the daily life of citizens. If abortion is included, so should assist suicide. And so should many many crazy things that might happen down the road that one can do to its own body; after all, it's a personal decision and freedom, right?
So, it's a very slippery rope by allowing such a single decision to have so much of an impact, when the constitution didn't even go that far to specify it.
Thus, going back to your original statement, that SCOTUS is about to ban abortion. This is FALSE. They are not banning it. They are simply correcting its overreach of the Roe vs. Wade case, and returning that power to Federal/State lawmakers. The reversal of this decision does not prohibit such practice. Did they make it easier for states, especially Republican-controlled ones, to pass anti-abortion laws? Sure. But each state elects their own representatives. If the vast majority of the people in the states believe that this value is what they want... who the fuck are we to say otherwise?
By trying to FORCE our value onto someone else, that in my book, is a serious interference of freedom... don't you think?