[nessus]

I haven't owned a new car for almost a decade. I am a little rusty dealing with sales if I am honest. I know now is probably the worst time to buy a car, used or new. But I am just curious if its even possible to buy a new 86 without markups?

Went to a Subaru dealer on the weekend, knowing its unlikely to neogiate a price under msrp, but they wouldn't even give me a fixed price on the markups. Guess the market is too fluid, they don't even want to talk numbers before the car shows up in their lot.

Wait is 12 months-ish, assuming everyone before me doesn't cancel their orders. I put $500 deposit in just in case.

Assume Toyota would be the same deal?