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Originally Posted by Hehe

So, we should keep voting libs even though they also do nothing other than some pretentious measures for the sake of saying "oh, we are making a difference".

Any measure would make "a" difference. But the problem is about progressing. By always electing the same party, they will only do whatever the fuck they want because they know that no matter what happens, they will get elected either way.

I had never considered myself affiliated in any particular party. In fact, when conservative were in power, I wanted the libs to get elected... simply because I didn't think con's were doing a good job and deserve a change.

Democracy is not about being conservative or liberal or libertarian or green. It's about the people has the ultimate say about how the country needs to be run. And the worst thing to do is keep voting for the same party when the way they are dealing with problems you care about aren't working.

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

You vote the same people, they aren't going to change.

The problem is that with the issues like crime, the solutions around recovery programs and opportunities, the conservatives have absolutely no track record for, and in fact, socially funded programs like those are traditionally against conservative "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" political values.

Based on the solutions even Honda even agrees with, and PP advocated for, there is no evidence at all how or why conservatives would even want to fund these tax funded social programs, if only to try to attract fed up voters who just want to see change at election with no intent on actually doing anything besides their other conservative agenda items.