[winson604]

Just an observation from at least 3 couples I knew that really struggled to make it happen. Similar stories, trying all the Chinese stuff among a million other things and with each method not showing results the stress builds and builds. All 3 finally ended up making it happen well over a year in 1 case over 2 years later. The only common theme I saw was that all 3 couples came to a point of not stressing about it anymore and just let nature take its course with the if it happens it happens attitude. Best of luck to you all.