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EvoFire · 09-10-2023, 08:29 AM

I never made any arguments about the battery because I've read articles that talk about Teslas that've gone the distance. I think 200k -300k is not out of the question but most ppl just simply don't drive that much before getting rid of the car, and most ppl that need to drive that much typically wouldn't pick an EV due to range anxiety, charge anxiety, and battery deg.

A Camry will do 500km to a tank at 0km and if you keep up maintenance will still do close to that at 200k.
A Tesla will do 500km on a charge, 400km in the winter (pulling this out of my ass), and maybe do 300-350km in the winter after 200k. It would be hard to get a first adopter who drives 100k a year to make the switch if it means he needs to go charge it everyday in the middle or end of day. It's not so much the inconvenience but the unknown.

For the rest of us peons, I realistically don't think it matters THAT much which drivetrain type it is. I am a typical Vancouver driver who works from home. I put on about 4k on my car a year, the family bus gets about 9k. The Tesla would replace the bus but my M3 is still staying, so the Tesla still gets about 9k a years. My gas cost isn't enough to justify getting a Tesla when an equivalent BMW or Porsche gives me more enjoyment and a better interior. I want to say better looking car but the new BMWs looks like shit.

I've test drove a TMYP and I took it home for the night. It was interesting but boring, the acceleration was fun for a bit, but my biggest problem was subjectively I hate the seats. I have a big ass and the seats just weren't comfortable with the seat bolsters digging into my ass. The other things I don't like are Tesla making change for the sake of change, BMW and VW are now doing a lot of the same thing with their interior design, trying to make change and copying Tesla despite it not being the functional design.

I cannot pretend that Tesla does not have quality problems when half the people I know who buy them has to bring it back for fixes. Also first hand reports from inside Tesla who has to deal with plenty of issues. Being told point blank to not get a TMX out of warranty unless I have money and time to waste, by some one who works on them, isn't a confidence boost.

I have more confidence with other electric cars, but unfortunately they do not have the same level of battery tech and drivetrain tech as Tesla and they are STILL playing catchup. It's unfortunate no manufacturer currently has the whole package for me.

09-10-2023, 08:29 AM	#3063
EvoFire Los Bastardo owned my ass at least once Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 6,148 Thanked 4,854 Times in 2,263 Posts Failed 73 Times in 47 Posts	I never made any arguments about the battery because I've read articles that talk about Teslas that've gone the distance. I think 200k -300k is not out of the question but most ppl just simply don't drive that much before getting rid of the car, and most ppl that need to drive that much typically wouldn't pick an EV due to range anxiety, charge anxiety, and battery deg. A Camry will do 500km to a tank at 0km and if you keep up maintenance will still do close to that at 200k. A Tesla will do 500km on a charge, 400km in the winter (pulling this out of my ass), and maybe do 300-350km in the winter after 200k. It would be hard to get a first adopter who drives 100k a year to make the switch if it means he needs to go charge it everyday in the middle or end of day. It's not so much the inconvenience but the unknown. For the rest of us peons, I realistically don't think it matters THAT much which drivetrain type it is. I am a typical Vancouver driver who works from home. I put on about 4k on my car a year, the family bus gets about 9k. The Tesla would replace the bus but my M3 is still staying, so the Tesla still gets about 9k a years. My gas cost isn't enough to justify getting a Tesla when an equivalent BMW or Porsche gives me more enjoyment and a better interior. I want to say better looking car but the new BMWs looks like shit. I've test drove a TMYP and I took it home for the night. It was interesting but boring, the acceleration was fun for a bit, but my biggest problem was subjectively I hate the seats. I have a big ass and the seats just weren't comfortable with the seat bolsters digging into my ass. The other things I don't like are Tesla making change for the sake of change, BMW and VW are now doing a lot of the same thing with their interior design, trying to make change and copying Tesla despite it not being the functional design. I cannot pretend that Tesla does not have quality problems when half the people I know who buy them has to bring it back for fixes. Also first hand reports from inside Tesla who has to deal with plenty of issues. Being told point blank to not get a TMX out of warranty unless I have money and time to waste, by some one who works on them, isn't a confidence boost. I have more confidence with other electric cars, but unfortunately they do not have the same level of battery tech and drivetrain tech as Tesla and they are STILL playing catchup. It's unfortunate no manufacturer currently has the whole package for me.