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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD
Yeah - just noticed the many Jeeps in your bio - were ya in a WK1 or 2? My experiences so far have been with WK2.
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Ah yeah I had a WK1. I have no idea why they named the next gen the WK2 when they share absolutely nothing lol.
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD
I've heard about the 5.7 and it's undersized oil/water pumps and header bolt issues. Early 3.6 is supposed to be bad as well right? 2019+ is when they gave all the 5.7/6.4 Hellcat oil pumps ...I wouldn't buy a used one earlier than that.
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For the WK1 iirc the issue with the 5.7 was dropping valve seats like the WJ's 4.7. The 3.7 is supposed to be decent but gutless and only on pleb spec ones, 4.7 had issues with small oil passages. Diesel 3.0 is mostly solid but absolutely nobody will work on it since it's a Merc engine in a Jeep. A 2019 might be alright but the trim is already falling to pieces in my buddies SRT.
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD
Most issues I've heard have to do with wheel bearings/front suspension which isn't uncommon for SUVs of this weight (even Crosstreks get hit by this) and random electrical (earlier WK1 TIPMs were really really bad. later model radar cruise sounds troublesome).
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Suspension was weak on the WK1 as well. Mine had sagged an inch in the front which is pretty extreme. The front wheel bearings were dying for at least 30k before they made really bad noises so they're kinda shit but at least you have time to do something about it lol. Material and build quality was pretty poor for a supposedly "luxury" vehicle. My wifes Rav4 from the same year is very noticeably better in that regard.
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD
But TBH all the alternatives don't feel that great to me: X5s with xDrive transfer case/N55 bearing/ZF6 issues/N62 everything or a later model with the B58 that feels boring (I've put 3k kms on a X6 40i), ML/GLE where the high performance engine stretches head bolts or timing chains, MDX blows engines and transmissions, Subaru's blow CVTs/bad infotainment/have pathetic engines, and the Q7 while kinda ok with the 3.0T/ZF8 also has electrical issues .... a late model WK2 feels like a reasonable compromise of fun, modern, and not catastrophically unreliable.
IMO too many compromises with the Toyota/Lexus models; none of them drive particularly responsively and are often both ancient and very poorly packaged space wise. New RX I swear got a lot smaller and still doesn't drive that well. Electronic door handles don't even work when it's snowy/icy outside.
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Depends on your priorities I guess. To me no SUV will ever feel very responsive compared to what I'm used to so I just want something that can reliably haul a family around vaguely comfortably. The WK failed miserably on the reliability front so it had to go. It sounds like the alternatives are just as bad or worse though lol.