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Old 03-02-2024, 03:30 PM   #1292
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Originally Posted by whitev70r View Post
If that is what you foresee ... then it's even more important for Ukraine and the West to negotiate an end now. Cut your losses and rebuild Ukraine with 80% of the geographical land that you still have.
This is what I'd expect based on the current reduced supply of weapons and ammunition the western world is supplying to Ukraine, and it is important to note that it doesn't have to be this way. The outlook could very easily change if NATO countries were to take up a different trajectory in terms of weapons / ammo supply. Ukrainian forces would definitely be doing much better if they are equipped properly to fight this war. But then we go back to the argument of how much NATO involvement can there be before Russia threatens to use their nukes again.

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^^ I don't think there's 80% land left, cuz I recall watching something that basically a lot of the land is unusable due to mines. Also where are they gonna get money from, Ukrainian economy has collapsed. I sure don't want my tax dollars rebuilding another country. According to the world corruption index, they are ranked 103 worse than Kazakhstan, Albania. They will just go around begging for money.

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2023
The corruption clean up is a mandatory requirement for getting accepted into NATO. Until Ukraine can gets its corruption levels down to an acceptably low level, NATO will not grant them membership.
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