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^ I think it's hard to spin a non GT 991/2 if you leave the traction control on in fairweather conditions. The electronic safety nets on these cars are really powerful unless you actively purposely try really hard to scandi flick the car into the wall. Even if you turn the system partially off, an average driver trying to push the car and not being an idiot would probably be ok unless they just straight up carried way too much speed into a corner. They can bend physics, but not defeat it.
This is from experience driving older Mazdas vs newer ones, and the bunch of BMW products we've had. On my MS3 and NC Miata, it's really just traction control and all it does is cut power and hope for the best.
I had a current gen Mazda3 for an extended period of time and I could feel the traction and stability control working on that much hard than the older stuff.
Then with BMW stuff. Our F56 Mini I can feel the system grabbing individual brakes to straighten out the car. I've tried it in full traction, no traction but with stability, and full off. You can feel the difference in terms of intervention.
It's the same with my M3. I can't break traction in the dry easily with all the systems on, it keeps a really close watch on everything. In MDM mode which is partial intervention, it'll let me hold a drift even with 200TW but will catch you if you get too far out of line.
If it's wet though.... lol.....
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