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Originally Posted by JDMDreams

So like do you give your card to like every dealer and be like call me when you get the low km rare cars?

*rare AMGs

Originally Posted by EvoFire

This is from experience driving older Mazdas vs newer ones, and the bunch of BMW products we've had. On my MS3 and NC Miata, it's really just traction control and all it does is cut power and hope for the best.
I had a current gen Mazda3 for an extended period of time and I could feel the traction and stability control working on that much hard than the older stuff.

Then with BMW stuff. Our F56 Mini I can feel the system grabbing individual brakes to straighten out the car. I've tried it in full traction, no traction but with stability, and full off. You can feel the difference in terms of intervention.
It's the same with my M3. I can't break traction in the dry easily with all the systems on, it keeps a really close watch on everything. In MDM mode which is partial intervention, it'll let me hold a drift even with 200TW but will catch you if you get too far out of line.
If it's wet though.... lol.....

They say the Civic Type R has similar kind of traction control and vehicle stability assistance systems. My list of cars are in my sig, but none of those have "good traction control". I drive on track with full off and on the street with no traction but with stability. But I can't say I can feel the individual systems working. That said, full off in the CTR still isn't full off. Needs a pedal dance to be completely off. I know other people like, 325msport, who have driven my car on track on commented on the "video game" feeling.