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And BTW the only reason you're going after this person now is because of the accusations of her being trans. Without that, everyone would be fine with her just like they were at the last Olympics. Just like nobody goes after any random rugby player who is huge and strong in a physical sport because of genetics or whatever.
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If you had actually bothered to read what I wrote before, you would have known right from the start in both the Trump thread as well as this Olympic thread that I have mentioned how the issue is not about Khelif being trans, but my initial reading from a newspaper at the suggestion that she has DSD. Of course, you can choose to selectively read what you want to read, and I can't stop that. You can also choose to continually harp about how I am making this a trans issue, when I have indicated a few times that it isn't.
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She was the same person then that she is now, but this time the usual suspects on twitter got all the people to pile on with hatred and ignorance because someone quit a match 45 seconds in. And after it got disproven, it just has to continue for whatever reason. Now it's "grey area" and "genetics" an "DND" or whatever
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It is "DSD", which stands for "Differences of Sexual Development", not "DND". If you were going to use it as a point of discussion, at least make an effort into getting right. Otherwise, you'll just come across as being dismissive to begin with, and not really interested in what the other party has to say.
If that's the case, what's the point of even bothering to discuss the matter?
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All this talk about categories of "genetics" as if you care about genetics.
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At the heart of it, you are correct that genetics is not the top of my concern. The biggest thing I would like to see in competitive sports is fair play. As I have already mentioned in post #68 though, for better or for worse, society has chosen "gender" to be the deciding factor in how we separate athletes into different categories to ensure fair play, and the presence of what chromosomes pair a person has is the implicitly understood reason on how athletes are categorized.
It is not a perfect system, but no system ever is. Just because you do not think the condition is something to be concerned about does not determine whether the condition is actually something to be concerned about. Citing how Khelif is not undefeatable has no bearing on whether the condition provides an athletic advantage over competitors who do not have that condition. The single most important criteria is whether Khelif has the DSD condition or not, but nobody knows the answer to that.
FYI, there is a real debate behind DSD athletes and the requirements they have been made to comply with in order to compete as well. The World Athletics Council sees it as an important enough condition to put a rule in place to limit blood testosterone level for DSD athletes. Meanwhile, Olympic champion runner Caster Semenya is a DSD athlete, and has taken the competition requirements to the European Court of Human Rights on the basis of discrimination against athletes with her condition. So it isn't just some boomer nonsense.