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Old 09-16-2024, 12:26 AM   #7232
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer View Post
For anyone who hasn’t driven through the DTES or even Chinatown recently, I implore you to go have a look. Went downtown on Friday for a show and holy fuck… not only is this shit worse than ever, it’s spread further and further out of the DTES. Full blown encampments now throughout China town, rogers arena, QE theatre etc.
Are we going to the same Chinatown, Hondaracer? Cuz since May, I've had to attend to some on-going business in Chinatown, and I had to be there once every 3 - 4 weeks. I was mostly going around the area bounded by Pender, Columbia, Union, and Gore, and compared to last year, I'd actually say Chinatown seems to have cleaned up a bit this year.

There seemed to be fewer homeless people passed out / sitting down on the streets. The stench of urine / feces on the streets was significantly less noticeable than last year. There was also far fewer feces that I have spotted this year. Almost every time when I went there (between May and early Sept), I came across someone who appeared to be part of the vulnerable community there doing garbage pick up (off the streets) as part of some sort of socially funded program. It still wasn't Shaughnessy, but it was a noticeable improvement compared to last year.

Potentially, I can see how things could get ugly real fast on Hastings, since that has always tended to be the epic center of the homelessness issue.

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Since you want to change the subject:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...tion-1.7324079
Eby committing to 400 new involuntary mental health care to make up for the nearly a thousand the BC libs cut back when they closed Riverview.
Can I hear about how this is somehow a bad idea cause it is the NDP implementing it, even though it's probably exactly what you'd want to see from another party?
I am not parroting Honda's suggestion of how the (provincial) NDP is turning everything into shxt, but I seem to recall that every social / outreach worker that I've heard on radio insists that involuntary treatment is a very bad idea, regardless of whether it is mental health care, or drug addiction care. When the central figure receiving treatment and/or support is not onboard with the program, chances of relapse and fatal outcomes are quite a bit more common than if the plan has participant buy-in.
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