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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

On my prediction:

Level 5: Robotaxi does not get Cali DOT approval for testing until mid 2025, will have steering wheel & pedals to avoid FMVSS recert, will have 4 seats, and new sensors on corner of car and either radar/lidar for fog/rain/low light. Probably a modified Model 3.

Elon has confirmed a lot of this

1) ✅ Steering Wheel and Pedals: Cybercab "volume production" after 2026 means they gotta start in late 2025; they promised but didn't show roadmap for Unsupervised FSD in 2025 so imo they're not gonna deliver

2) ✅ New Sensors: Elon said they were having trouble identifying errors / validating the training data they collected, implying they need new categories of data to help. HW4 has added a radar.

3) ✅ New Hardware: Per my friend who worked on HW3, it will have a very different power structure to HW4. There is 0 chance HW3 cars get retrofitted for HW4 and there is likely going to be a HW5.

4) Timeline: IMO they're going to need HW5, some more new sensors, we'll see some limited rollout of unsupervised FSD in late 2026.

so basically all the sheeps who paid $10K+ for full self driving with cars HW4 or less got sold a dream.. maybe fraud.