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Old 12-28-2024, 06:11 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by JDMDreams View Post
I really wonder what happened to Nissan? Cvt killed them? Like they were killing Acura and Lexus with 350z G35. They had the fx. I wonder why they never put more models out and continued to develop them. All the m and q platform cars were good. I remember the Altima 2.5 was so fast compared to Honda cars of the day. There's used to be Maxima's and Pathfinders everywhere.
It's always money. They had very few top quality products in the last 20 years and those that were there rarely printed money - the G35 was a winner but it didn't sell in the kind of volumes or prices to fund more development. Same goes for everything they sold - even when the Altima briefly was competitive with the Accord/Camry they weren't selling it at margins that made much money (Nissan didn't have the brand equity of Honda/Toyota so they always sold for less)

In the past year their profit margin has hovered around 1% despite very little R&D spend (warmed over product after warmed over product) while Honda is around 5% and Toyota has gotten as high as 11%. Both Honda and Toyota are spending tonnes of money on R&D even as they make solid profits. Even Mazda manages 3-5% margins despite being tiny and they're investing tonnes into their RWD platform and new engines (Mazda has made a lot of hay selling their top trims heavily)

Nissan is basically the Japanese version of Stellantis (maybe worse). They may have EV know how because they started earlier but I really doubt they have anything today that Honda doesn't have. Their body on frame isn't class competitive either - I don't see Honda taking it and adding it to their lineup in anyway.
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