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Originally Posted by roastpuff
At the office, I would have a dedicated EV stall (110v "EV" lol) so 8 hours of charging every weekday. We average about 16-18k km per year on our A4, as it is our daily, and do road trips/etc. HOV access would be nice as we are just off the Gagliardi exit and often take Hwy 1 to go to my wife's parents' place off Boundary or out to Surrey to visit friends (but not critical).
I would be fine not buying a PHEV, in fact Cayenne diesels are pretty darn attractive too lol. But the wife wants a PHEV as her non-negotiable so...
Definitely not looking for new. CPO preferred; a few years old would be fine. Definitely would get a warranty lol. A 2024 Cayenne or X5 definitely wouldn't fit our budget, but maybe in 2026 they will be cheaper....
Would love either - in fact I talked to my dad's friend who has a LX470 (04? 06?) and wants to sell once he dies (he's 75 but fit as fuck, I'll prob die first). Wife vetoed.
I blame the wife. Also, have you seen the price on the GX? Fuck it's expensive. LC is out due to tow rating being shit with the 4-cyl turbo hybrid.
Size, and lack of hybrid ruled that out. I took a look at the QX56/Armada too...  |
If you are looking at 21-23 X5 45e or Cayenne ehybrid, for your use case at 16-18k km a year, don't do it. It doesn't fit your usage at all and you'll be burning a lot of gas.
A X5 40i is roughly 10k less for similar year/mileage/options out the door, and 10k is a lot of gas money when you can't take advantage of the EV part of the equation like we do. 8 hours a day only gets you about 18-20km of range, and none on the weekends, so easily 1/3 to 1/2 of your regular usage would still be on gas.
We've had the car for about 6 months now and put 7k on it. We've put in $70 of gas for the first 5 months, then Christmas happened, between the gatherings and activities and kids not being in school, we've had to put in another $70 in the last month. We are on the plug for easily 12-15 hours a day to keep up with our usage, and we will still empty the battery if we have more than 2 outings a day. The battery will also not make it to Langley and back from Vancouver.
The HOV sticker is relatively useless for us because we almost never take the car on the highway with just one person. We always have the kids in tow so we may as well not need it.
There are other options in the market like the Volvo XC90 Recharge and the GLE450e and Lexus RX500h. None of them will solve your lack of ability to charge. None of them will be as "sporty" as the X5 or Cayenne, though the X5 is already stretching the definition of sporty imo. The XC90 has been around for awhile already so you should be able to find one. The GLE450e is new for 2024 so probably out of your range as well, ditto the RX.
Keep in mind these cars are relatively rare, there's more X5 than Cayenne, and some of the Cayennes have really weird option loadouts. There's also the caveat of X5's missing options due to the chip shortage and makes looking for cars really testing for your patience.
TL;DR - Get a regular one with the options you want, whether if it's Cayenne or X5.
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD
low key i think she just wants the cayenne, have u tried offering the PHEV range rover?
x5 and gle image is not good; it's giving mid-market New Jersey/Long Island mom who doesn't know better than Longchamps/LV/Goyard vibe.
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Your demographic is a little different from ours.
And fuck lol.... range rover and towing long range. He's gonna need a tow for the RR and a tow for the tow.