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Old 01-15-2025, 08:50 AM   #587
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Some reporting that Trump wanted this to end before he takes over and if not, shit will happen. But I thought Israel and Trump are best buds and he would lean on Israel's side.
My guess is -- with Trump being best buds with Isreal / Netanyahu, Hamas leaders (or whatever remains of them) finally figured it wasn't in their best interest to keep fighting.

If I am understanding things correctly, Hamas leadership as well as their general capabilities have already taken a huge beating. They are in no real shape to put up a fight in Gaza anymore. Had they continued to keep resisting, the only upside is that Israel will continue to pound civilian infrastructure in Gaza, and continue to earn international condemnation for committing war crimes and other humanitarian catatrophes. But Israel obviously doesn't give a damn about any of that, and the international community aren't putting much meaningful weight or pressure towards Israel to stop anyway.

For Israel, their focus is no longer in Gaza anymore. So wrapping things up in Gaza would allow them to focus on their next target better (Hezbollah / Lebanon / Iran). Netanyahu can also take credit for finally bringing the hostages home, although I tend to believe that a lot of the hostages that have not been returned are either already dead, or their whereabouts aren't even known by the remaining Hamas leadership.

So it is a big win for Israel and Netanyahu, but they don't really care all that much whether they are wrapping things up now, or in 6 months.
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