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Originally Posted by MarkyMark
You're insinuating none of those things have ever happened? Shit look at the response from Luigi offing that CEO, people are perfectly ok with murder if it's for someone they don't like. People on this forum alone hope Trump gets shot all the time.
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I'm not insinuating anything - you said, without any context, that the far left had borderline insane beliefs and made it equivalent to far right beliefs and I'm asking you to document what those borderline insane beliefs are so we can actually talk about it rather than be hand wavy about them.
For the record I wouldn't be sad to see Trump or Musk die in a bunker - both are criminals (one convicted, another I expect to see convicted one day). I wouldn't experience a moment of sadness if either met a tragic end - one has already caused the death hundreds of thousands (COVID response), the other will cause the deaths of a similar number through what he's done with USAID. They're not Hitler or Pol Pot or Mao yet but they are certainly in the Bin Laden/Hussein class of villain.
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark
Beyond that, things like decriminalization, defund the police, voting on shit like giving every black person a million dollars for reparations etc.
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That's a vast over exaggeration of what actually happened - there was a 9 person task force formed in California to study and recommend reparations for slavery. The vote was for the task force to confirm the recommendations in the report that could result in UP TO $1.2m in reparations. This is no different than other types of tasks forces who review a situation and make recommendations - like how much spending on infrastructure is needed (billions) or how much the military is underfunded.
This was not the government agreeing to it or planning to do it. In fact, the govt ended up only allocating $12m in total for it.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...ack-americans/
https://apnews.com/article/californi...71f77c201b3030
re: Decriminalisation and defunding the police. I don't think the former is radical - it's been done successfully elsewhere - why is that radical/insane? It worked badly in BC so therefore any successful implementation of it is invalid and any further attempt at it is insane?
Defunding the police - ok, yes, some elements of it are extreme but there's some very relevant points in there - we have made police take on work that they are not trained to do (mental health issues) just like we have made fire departments respond to things out of their responsibility (that paramedics should respond to) and we should be taking budget out of the police (and the corresponding work) and funding the right services instead. I do believe American police organisations are pretty corrupt organisations with clear signs of systemic racist behaviour (well documented in many cities that have been investigated and punished by the DOJ). Why shouldn't the aggrieved feel that shutting down existing police organisations and replacing them be a solution? Time and time again we've seen that fixing them from the inside doesn't work.