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Old 02-10-2025, 08:51 PM   #9347
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Curious as to understand how people on here define right wing ( right of center) vs far right. Someone mentioned far right media personalities..I’m assuming the usual cast of character between Peterson and Ben Shapriro would be considered by some here as far right? If so who do you consider moderate right
Very loosely, I think of Conservatives as the party of "No Change" - their name pretty much says as much - they don't want progress and generally will want to gently revert whatever Liberals have done as long as it doesn't override public sentiment too dramatically (eg. they wouldn't reverse something really popular/accepted - interracial marriage for example). Conservatives aren't static - they do gradually move with the times - they become less racist for example. Conservatives may include both fiscal and religious conservatives who have different notions of "no change" (like being pro-life or being anti-regulation)

OTOH, the Far Right seeks a reversal of the changes that have happened - they want a return to the way things were before and to reclaim what once was regardless of what public sentiment and current morals/values say or what science or facts say. They will often reference how things used to be and how it was better then - it's coded language for white nationalism. They often want to reclaim power they've lost - thus you'll see an overtly "masculine" set of beliefs (like Andrew Tate) or overtly racist behaviour. The far right is commonly associated with fascism due to the desire for control/power.

Liberals (small L) are the people of progress defined as more equality in all forms - more rights for everyone, more economic opportunity for everyone, etc. The more equality they advocate for the more left they are. Some think of far left being Communism which is different than Socialism - I think the latter is more accurate. Something that I'd consider a far left idea is universal basic income - it's a radical idea that would require dramatic change in society.

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I personally see a polarization on both sides ( mostly media driven) that try’s to paint the entire “side” as being far left/far right. Who would you guys consider reasonable on the other side of things relative to your own position?
Keep in mind that the media is invariably owned and operated by right of centre or right wing organisations/people so the reporting is inherently biased even if you consider that some claim to be left. The Washington Post, pretty centre in most things is owned by Jeff Bezos who recently didn't allow the Post staff to endorse a Presidential candidate for reasons of staying out of the fray - lo and behold Jeff is hanging out with Trump a few weeks later.
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