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SkinnyPupp · 02-17-2025, 01:21 AM

Sorry to spam but I am super excited lol

I gave my sister the rest of the month to move her stuff out (kind of regretting that, but hey it's family) so I still can't set up my workshop. I couldn't wait though, so I installed the lamp and decided to tear down one of these mofos

I tried the loupe which has 5x and you can add an additional 15x for inspection. I do not like it at all, even at 5x. It's uncomfortable and tries to point to the right and it's hard to mess around with and it fogs up. 1600's technology right? I still have that headset I bought to deal with those issues before, so I used that. 3.5x with additional light, but it is heavy (due to the AAA batteries) and really digs into the bridge of my nose. Still better than the loupe. I have to look into a better quality headset with 3.5ish mag. I see some have USB charging now which should mean lighter battery... Eventually I will get a microscope.

I got to compare the Dumont tweezers to my old cheap brass ones and holy shit lol. It's hard to think that they are even the same tool. Even as a total noob, I can manipulate tiny screws and springs with no problems. I would pick up the old tweezers to compare, and it was like using a set of tongs from the kitchen. They say tweezers are worth spending money on, and based on just this, I agree

Same with the movement holder.. I had a $2 Chinese one just to mess around with before, but the Swiss one is so much better. It just locks onto the movement and you don't have to fuck with it to get it to stay in place.

I'm sure the screwdrivers will be the same, but for now I had to use cheapies. I did dress the heads to fit better, but the screwdriver itself is all squeaky lol

So for the movements, I had my purchased Seagull ST36, and the Asia ST36 that came with my watch. As mentioned, the balance spring came right off the stud on the Asia one. The issue with the Seagull is that it would stop running frequently. So the idea was to tear it down, figure out what's wrong with it (I had an idea) and take that part off the Asia model

Just as I expected, I fucked it up back when I first got it, trying to turn the seconds wheel into a no-seconds (so removing the pivot that the seconds hand attaches to). This was the one I tried to file off, what a bright idea right? I figured that did it, but I didn't have confirmation now. What is in my watch now is a third one I bought, where I properly cut off the pivot with a pair of high quality snips. IT's been working great since then

So what was wrong with it? The jewel was cracked! The filing motion would have cracked it. So I took the train bridge off the Asia model for the rebuild

Put it all back together, and it's working great in all positions. Hopefully it's still running tomorrow lol

Tomorrow I'm going to do the same thing, but with a clean and oil. I have 99% IPA for cleaning (no need for anything drastic yet with new movements - and yes I know not to put shellac in there). For oil I have 9010 but I also got some 8000 to practice with. Also D5 which is cheap for medium viscosity since it comes in a big bottle, and Molykote DX which is cheap grease. Wish me luck!

From now on I'll stop spamming this thread with this crap. I was going to wait until my workshop is ready to start a new thread, but I might have to do it tomorrow if I end up doing the full service.

02-17-2025, 01:21 AM	#23
SkinnyPupp Hacked RS to become a mod Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sunny Hong Kong Posts: 55,105 Thanked 25,916 Times in 9,108 Posts Failed 1,574 Times in 720 Posts Member's Picture Albums	Sorry to spam but I am super excited lol I gave my sister the rest of the month to move her stuff out (kind of regretting that, but hey it's family) so I still can't set up my workshop. I couldn't wait though, so I installed the lamp and decided to tear down one of these mofos I tried the loupe which has 5x and you can add an additional 15x for inspection. I do not like it at all, even at 5x. It's uncomfortable and tries to point to the right and it's hard to mess around with and it fogs up. 1600's technology right? I still have that headset I bought to deal with those issues before, so I used that. 3.5x with additional light, but it is heavy (due to the AAA batteries) and really digs into the bridge of my nose. Still better than the loupe. I have to look into a better quality headset with 3.5ish mag. I see some have USB charging now which should mean lighter battery... Eventually I will get a microscope. I got to compare the Dumont tweezers to my old cheap brass ones and holy shit lol. It's hard to think that they are even the same tool. Even as a total noob, I can manipulate tiny screws and springs with no problems. I would pick up the old tweezers to compare, and it was like using a set of tongs from the kitchen. They say tweezers are worth spending money on, and based on just this, I agree Same with the movement holder.. I had a $2 Chinese one just to mess around with before, but the Swiss one is so much better. It just locks onto the movement and you don't have to fuck with it to get it to stay in place. I'm sure the screwdrivers will be the same, but for now I had to use cheapies. I did dress the heads to fit better, but the screwdriver itself is all squeaky lol So for the movements, I had my purchased Seagull ST36, and the Asia ST36 that came with my watch. As mentioned, the balance spring came right off the stud on the Asia one. The issue with the Seagull is that it would stop running frequently. So the idea was to tear it down, figure out what's wrong with it (I had an idea) and take that part off the Asia model Just as I expected, I fucked it up back when I first got it, trying to turn the seconds wheel into a no-seconds (so removing the pivot that the seconds hand attaches to). This was the one I tried to file off, what a bright idea right? I figured that did it, but I didn't have confirmation now. What is in my watch now is a third one I bought, where I properly cut off the pivot with a pair of high quality snips. IT's been working great since then So what was wrong with it? The jewel was cracked! The filing motion would have cracked it. So I took the train bridge off the Asia model for the rebuild Put it all back together, and it's working great in all positions. Hopefully it's still running tomorrow lol Tomorrow I'm going to do the same thing, but with a clean and oil. I have 99% IPA for cleaning (no need for anything drastic yet with new movements - and yes I know not to put shellac in there). For oil I have 9010 but I also got some 8000 to practice with. Also D5 which is cheap for medium viscosity since it comes in a big bottle, and Molykote DX which is cheap grease. Wish me luck! From now on I'll stop spamming this thread with this crap. I was going to wait until my workshop is ready to start a new thread, but I might have to do it tomorrow if I end up doing the full service.