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Old 04-29-2025, 10:02 AM   #11641
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The problem that has always dogged the Cons is how they can find a leader that can simultaneously unite the party while also appealing to Canadians. PP got to party leader position bcos there were too many right wing crazies that deemed a moderate conservative (such as O'Toole) was not a suitable canadiate to lead the party. They wanted an attack dog, someone that will cater to populism, or even conspiracy theories and tolerate far right ideologies. That's what it took to "unite the right". Unfortunately, that is not the path Canadian voters want.

So if the Cons elect a candidate that would be more appealing to the typical Canadian voter, he might not have enough support from within his own party, more or less like how O'Toole got ousted immediately after the federal election loss. And if they pick another polarizing leader like PP, then they can unite the right wing portion of the party, but they can't build enough voter support beyond their typical base.
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I'm not going to come in here and dunk, but I said it for a while now, Pierre was a flawed a unlikable candidate. The man lost his own riding

Conservatives need to do some serious soul searching, pick a more moderate leader, and stop trying to adopt this American-style politics.

Canadians are not as ignorant as our neighbors down south.
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^ I actually don't think it went beyond PP, his messaging, and his style. They will do a review but I think it was all centred on the unlikeable figure PP. It wasn't their policies that people have issues with, we like affordability, safe streets, no tax on housing, etc. Except for straws. If they had a Mulroney like figure ... centrist but Conservative, we would have woken up to a different result.

So I kind of want Cons to be a pesky opposition to keep these things on the Liberal agenda.
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