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Old 07-02-2025, 02:31 PM   #1614
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I wouldn't say it is the gov that created an environment where people can't afford to have kids until they are in their 30's. The simple trend that is true everywhere across the world is -- the more educated women are, they later they start having children, while also having fewer children in total. We, esp those of us in Canada, live in a world where higher education / post secondary is very common.

Societal norm is also changing. In my parents' generation, most married couples are expected to have children. Nowadays, the choice to have children is really just that -- it's a choice, and a choice where many have chosen not to have children. And when we choose to have children, we also have fewer of them -- probably far fewer of them.

Personally, while I certainly view the 1 gov-covered IVF treatment to be a welcomed and progressive gesture, I also view it pretty much exactly as that -- a goodwill gesture, instead of a determined effort to really help people have children. IMO by the time someone is looking into getting IVF, their chances to successfully conceive from a single treatment seems kinda low to me.
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The whole world has gone down a road no one can recover from, and it's nothing to do with governments, it's because so much of the general public is so fucking stupid.
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