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Old 08-18-2025, 12:43 PM   #1401
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Originally Posted by supafamous View Post
It's basically a proxy war - the EU (and it's supposed to be the US) want to ensure that Russia doesn't have outsize influence in the world but they can't confront Russia directly so Ukraine is how they bleed Russia to death.

I've been very surprised that Russia's economy hasn't tanked but the WSJ has been looking into it - basically the war machine is keeping the economy afloat but there are limits to this. The EU (and the US) really can bleed Russia dry - it's just a matter of how bad Ukraine fares in the process.

WSJ report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VDxUqjAWLU
The countries that doesn't have interests elsewhere and only has Russia as an opponent really should be going all in on this. Whatever draw down of Russian capability means less chance of having to get involved themselves.

Think Sweden, Norway, Spain, Italy, Greece where Russia is realistically their biggest and likely only opponent.

US has the Pacific to keep themselves busy, UK and France has projection considerations as well.

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams View Post
I think it's more of a proxy for us to keep Europe poor, euro can't compete and replace USD, have reasons against Russia, China, India to keep them behind us
Us as in US. It's a very immature mindset and a very good descriptor of how Trump does things. There's not "we all win" type scenario in his head, you have to lose something therefore it means he wins.

It's the reason why he's a terrible businessman. The west is built on a we all win together kind of mindset and he's breaking that. It's also a paradigm that's advertised a lot in the workspace. Sharing knowledge and specialties increases team productivity. Holding on to your domain knowledge and not letting other's on means you become a single point of failure when shit hits the fan and the team won't be able to deliver. Of course you need a good leader to preach that kind of mindset and behaviour, and Trump is the leader, and a pretty terrible one.
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