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Originally Posted by Hehe
My message is that I feel sad you liberal supporters just keep justifying Carney's decisions. Of course... I understand it. You need to continue to justify your own decision. Admitting being wrong, however little, is hard by nature.
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Did I lay out anything that's factually incorrect about the current state of play? And did I say I support Carney's call on this? I understand why he did what he did but I have concerns about where it's all going. He recently said that he won't accept a "bad deal for Canadians" and I'm not sure he should be saying that as every deal being made is a bad deal right now, it's a matter of degrees.
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Originally Posted by Hehe
But look realistically, if today it was PP who is in power and this happens, would you still say the same thing? Will you give the same tolerance?
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No I wouldn't because PP has not demonstrated any evidence in his entire political career of getting anything done. Nor has he shown that any of his values or beliefs align with mine. The Conservatives are unserious about governing today - why should I provide them any tolerance? Give me a credible alternative (Erin O'Toole would have made a perfectly good PM - I might have even voted for him) and we can have actual discussions on the direction of the country. (Like what have you and the other loud mouth Conservatives here ever offered in terms of actually talking policy? All you do is whine about the state of the country and tell us how we're losers)
I didn't like Stephen Harper much at all but I can say that he generally ran the country reasonably well - I don't agree with things like the GST cut or his opposition to good science but things were fine, he was often a better than whatever the Liberals were offering. PP provides me zero evidence that he could govern as effectively as Harper so why should I give him any tolerance?
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Originally Posted by Hehe
Read what you said and think everything that Carney has done since then. Is Carney really just moving slow? Or really... just have no skill to do whatever he said he wanted to do to get elected.
Because other than doing 180 on things that he said he's going to do and giving in to US demands to even get US to the table, I dunno what the fuck Carney & co has done in the last month.
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I don't know what it is that makes you think that Carney has a blank cheque from me, for example, I've pointed out my concern about his spending plans as I don't see how the math will add up, I've pointed out that he's making big bets that I'm not sure will pay off, and I've said he's not using his team enough.
None of this has really changed much since what I said a couple months ago but it doesn't mean he doesn't have my broad support b/c he's doing a lot of other things right - in the past couple months he's still showing that he's better at politics than expected (witness his stellar approval ratings) and slightly worse at governing than I expected.