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Originally Posted by SSM_DC5
 odyssey over sienna. Gonna need more details
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#1 for family use and homeownership - Pacifica. This is a piece of shit but the 2nd row seats fold flat into the floor & u get a giant underfloor cubby when the seats are in use. If you ever need to move shit or store sports/adventure gears for passengers, nothing else comes CLOSE. Sienna can’t remove seats, the Odyssey ones weigh 35? Lbs. try fitting a couch or desk in an odyssey lmao - it’s an extra trip to remove the seats.
#2 The selfish option: odyssey drives fucking great & that 10 speed hustles. If you’re a highway driver in most of the US where gas is cheap, this is better than Sienna.
#3 Sienna. Hate driving it - engine drones, the response sucks, it’s really shit. It’s cheap to run, has auto steer, is reliable, so relatively brainless if you don’t need to move shit in the car.
#4 ID buzz: it’s small but vibey. Getting really cheap with 20k dealer incentive + 8k EV rebate tho. My boss looked at one and said it wasn’t big enough for two kids and a pet.
Carnival: why? You get a 1.6T DCT and a battery from Hyundai of all brands ….