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Old 10-01-2025, 03:51 PM   #244
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes View Post
While my experience was similar back in 2019, I think it's fair to say that there is also the possibility that we, as tourists, may not get to see. I would disagree that Western/European propaganda is the reason we may feel that China is a hell hole, but there are lots of areas in China that normal tourists don't get to go to, so we don't see the real China, or what happens behind the scenes. On the other hand, China has changed a lot over the past 30+ years.

I did not enjoy my trip to China, no matter how clean or crackhead-free it was. Would I live there? Absolutely not.
BIC totally did not see those kids sewing soccer balls for Nike and putting together my Uniqlo t-shirts nor did he see the concentration camps for the Uyghurs where the Chinese are systematically committing genocide.

It's easy for tourist to visit a place and think things are great in those places. It's the same when old timers think things were better in the old days. I'm sure there's lot of good stuff in China nowadays compared to when I went 20+ years ago - my parents always rave about it but there's plenty you don't get to see if you don't actually live there long-term.

BTW: Does anyone know which Scandinavian country Honda ended up moving to?
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