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Old 10-09-2025, 09:40 AM   #670
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I don't think this is true. I think they still want numbers on things like the Macan. Having said that, I drove a base model 4banger Macan on Monday and while it was fine, I'd take the Audi and option it up for the same price. Unless you are a badge snob the Audi is probably 90% the same parts anyway.
Obviously different people will have different preferences, but I've driven the 4-banger Macan on many occassions, and found it to drive/handle noticeably better than the Q5. The suspension tuning is a lot more athletic without being harsh (unless you are on the ridiculous 21" wheels). And somehow the drivetrain seems more alert / responsive to the Q5 as well.

I suppose you can call me as a badge snob for Porsche. But I honestly find their cars to be more a lot more engaging than Audi's. (I have yet to drive a TT or TTRS.)

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I think kids have way more selection now than when I was a kid. Hondas like a Prelude, Civic sir, Integra GSR, RSX, Accord etc... Only thing expensive is the insurance.

When I was a kid golden era hondas were still new. If you wanted used, you can get American muscle, but that was about it.
I'm surprised you'd say that!

Back in the golden era, it wasn't just Hondas that were fun. Off the top of my head, these were all the fun / cool cars from the era that weren't too expensive (when brand new):

Honda: Civic, Integra, Prelude, RSX
Toyota: Celica
Nissan: Sentra SE-R, 240SX
Mazda: 323 / Protege, Miata
Subaru: 2.5RS

Even the domestics had some fun stuff:

Ford: Escort GT (shared platform with 323 / Protege), Probe, Mustang
Chrysler: Neon
Chevrolet: Camaro

VW: Golf, Corrado

Bimmers start to get expensive, so I won't count them in.

Nowadays, the only affordable fun car I can think of are the GR86 / BRZ and Miata. Almost everything else became boring to drive.
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