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Old 11-11-2025, 08:03 PM   #11445
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If we don't blame the tariffs on Trump, I really don't know who else we can blame it on. Apparently you seem to think we should be blaming ourselves for having Trump slap random tariffs on aluminum and steel. And apparently you think we should be blaming ourselves for wanting to continue on a thoroughly integrated auto manufacturing industry that has proven to work extremely well for everyone's benefit over the last 60 years.

I agree that when the other side is talking shxt like they have, I wouldn't want to deal with them in any way either. Except of course in my thinking, the shxt talking side is the US.

I agree that the US certainly has more bargaining power than we do, but it isn't like we don't have any bargaining power with them either. There are things that the US can't get anywhere else for nearly as low a price as they can get from Canada, and we are one of the US' biggest customers as well. Prior to Trump, we had a mutually beneficial trade relationship with the US. But in typical Trump fashion, he wants to take all the profits while leaving the other party with nothing but breadcrumbs.

Trade doesn't work that way. I'm not sure who else we can blame other than the Orange Man.
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It's too easy to just say "it's all orange man fault."

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Like, I am not an amazing negotiator or anything like that. But if the other side is talking shit like this, I wouldn't want to deal with them in any way either. Especially when I'm the one holding the bargaining chip.
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