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Originally Posted by supafamous
I don't think it competes directly against anything in particular since there's barely any affordable coupes around. It's not supposed to be a sports car so the BRZ/Miata are not competitors and it's far more stylish than owning a Civic hatch or Elantra N and it's a lot cheaper than 230i or CLE. I'm not sure who the car really is for though - I like the idea of it (a budget GT that's fuel efficient but sporty-ish) but I'm not sure there's many customers for that kind of car.
Re: Price between the hybrid and CTR - that's kinda where it should be though as it's a mix of hybrid and CTR parts. You could argue that this is basically a hybrid CTR instead of a hybrid coupe.
FWIW, it should do 0-60 in the low 6s range so while it's only 200hp it's reasonably quick. I'd be really interested in how it performs in the next gen when the hybrid drivetrain gains a rear motor and probably another 20-30hp.
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It's a recycled segment, the personal coupe, but with a more modern interpretation.
This takes aim at the nostalgic 40+ crew who grew up driving Preludes but their backs and knees can't handle something like what they had before so it's in name only. There's no real competitor cause everyone quit the coupe making business.
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD
TBH this is the kinda shit track people should want for a daily - fuel efficient but with great tire, brake, chassis.
BUT, I like sporty hybrids and EVs but I really think they missed the mark here.
No sportier shifting logic or whatever, it drives like a Civic.
No using EV to cut turbo lag like everyone else.
No using turbo AND motor together for regen like Porsche.
In Europe it is detuned to 180hp because of emissions, 8.2s 0-62.
If it must have batteries, it's really hard to make a case when the Mach E GT PP, Ioniq 5N, Lucid Air, or Taycan are sooooo good for the same 40k USD.
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There's no gearbox on the drivetrain, you floor it and it'll give you 100%.
There's no turbo.
I saw that the Euro version is 0-100 at 8.5s. Not sure what they did. I'd assume the gas engine makes less power cause the electric part of it would be the same.
They really should have found a bigger motor to put in, but Honda only has one motor it's putting in everything, and it's not big enough for their big cars. One can hope they revisit this package in the future when their hybrid drivetrain is ready for the Pilot, so they can drop the big 300hp hybrid drivetrain into the Prelude. Prelude SH anyone?