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Old 12-01-2025, 09:07 PM   #14340
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I don't have it in front of me but I believe that carbon emissions in China actually went down this year (or last?) as their efforts at pushing EVs, switching to solar/wind/hydro etc are actually overcoming their thirst for energy even as they keep growing. This is a bit of a monumental achievement - basically the country that could do the most harm to the climate has turned the corner.

tl;dr China isn't going to need any extra oil from us so that pipeline is a pipe dream.

In related reading Bill Gates wrote a detailed article on the state of climate change - in it he says we're turning the corner on climate change as well - going green mostly doesn't cost extra anymore so new energy will be green. He got a lot of shit for it but I don't see anything in his writeup that was entirely off base, I think he's mostly right - it's just that we still need to see things through b/c the past is still affecting the future.

https://www.gatesnotes.com/home/home...-about-climate

I believe that people won't do anything about a problem until it becomes a big problem. China had a big problem with pollution. It was gray skies everywhere so they did something about it.

Same thing with California in the 60's... smog in LA was becoming a big problem so they came out with CARB and emmissions control.

Further inland where the hillbillies live, they wake up in the morning and see blue skies... they're gonna keep driving their V8 diesel trucks. For them pullution hasn't become big enough of an issue or they don't see it as an issue at all.

....said the guy with a 5.0L sedan... lol
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