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Originally Posted by Badhobz
that being said, i wouldnt want a 28 year old director unless its some micky mouse organization.
In shipping, i havent seen any directors who are less than 40+ and they usually have a wealth of experience in the field.
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In Korea.. people thought I was mid-late 30s.. fml. But it worked out for the work that I was doing.
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Originally Posted by Badhobz
The boy's job is to host dinner parties and drink booze on company dime. Plus he's only been drinking and dealing for about a year
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This is accurate.
But because the org is in shambles, I've had to "step it up" and show face at international events (ie. Korea) and rebuild relationships that past leadership dropped the ball on.
I'm also hosting an international delegation in Vancouver, where I'm inviting one of our board members to come as well. I had a fantastic conversation with him (and separately my intrim director) about my performance in my current role. I'll probably use that opportunity in a few weeks to test the waters on if I'd be a good fit for directorship.
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Originally Posted by 6793026
You DO need to arm yourself with a solid 3-4 people to protect you. Particularly one in finance to check your math and help with execution.
Yes the fake it till you make it still rocks when you're in entry level but once you're in VP, the goal is to get rocking asap. There's this saying, say low make dough.
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This whole org is probably 3 employees including me LOL. It has my role, my boss' role, and a PM. Then a whole suite of board of directors, who aren't employees. That's kinda why I'm hesitant, I can do whatever I want right now and present ideas that change our value prop (desperately needed) and be shielded from board scrutiny. I think all is good if I take the role AND I'm successful. But if I fail, I'm screwed - I'm out with no directorship, can't downgrade to current role, and I'm on my own.
My issue with past leadership is that they aren't business minded people. ie. They would pay for development costs on our website.. that are 10x the price of market - or of the projects I have executed and requested budget for, and have launched at a higher quality. Not to mention, I've had to jump into a project for past leadership.. because they didnt know how to use Excel lol.
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Originally Posted by 6793026
As for interm leader BS, if someone wnats you to be the face of company / leader of men, they will simply ask you to take the role.
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I like my current interm director LOL, would rather him stay tbh. Perhaps I communicated incorrectly, I meant, it just so happened that I ended up having to take on that perception in Korea, bc the rumor mills was that my org is falling apart, and then later quash those rumors with proof of commercial success in Korea. I wasn't necessarily asked to do it, but with this org, I'm not really asked to do anything and I have free reign to do anything (with the interm director just backing me on stuff).
For instance, I didn't ask to go on this trip. I sent an email saying that I'm going, here's what I'm going to do, and here's the budget needed.