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Only our core players have NTCs. MG has done a great job. Eight players (Sedins, Kesler, Manny, Bieksa, Hamhuis, Salo and Lu) have NTCs.
If you want to see NTCs handed out like candy, take a look at Calgary before you criticize Gillis, who is easily the best GM we've ever had. Calgary has 11 (...Matt Stajan!?).
Gillis had to give NTCs because all those players took discounts to stay with the Canucks. It's pretty standard to do when a player takes a hometown deal.
I will have to agree with u, but it seems like Lu is the only one out of all of them that didnt take a discount.
It is the best chance to keep both goalies. Luongo doesn't get blamed for losing another series, and Schneider feels like he can be the go-to-guy so he stays and signs for less if he loses the series.
If Schneider wins, obviously its good for everyone. Then it would become, play Schneider until he has a bad game.
That is a brutal article. Random snippets of quotes are taken, out of context, to help reinforce the point the writer is trying to imply. However if you hear the whole interview, that's not the tone of it at all.
Media drumming up trouble at its best, probably why Lu doesn't want to talk to media today. There really was no goalie controversy talk last couple dayswhen the biggest story was if Dank can play game 4. Now that signs are pointing to him being ok, media moves on to the next most provocative story. :yawn:
I will have to agree with u, but it seems like Lu is the only one out of all of them that didnt take a discount.
Well, you'd be wrong. Lu's cap hit is $5.33m, which is 8th in the league (7th if you don't include Huet). If you take into account Lu's numbers for his time in Vancouver, he's a top 3 goalie and made it to game 7 of the Cup Final. His numbers are superior to just about all other goalies AND has maintained some very good consistency. Everyone thinks Tim Thomas is awesome but forget he lost the starter job to Rask for an entire season.
Lu could've made more money elsewhere but chose to sign for a little less for a longer term. Everyone gets on Lu's case for his "$10m contract" but he makes less than 8 other goalies, 5 of which also do not have Stanley Cups.
So for anyone thinking no one will take Luongo's contract, I GUARANTEE YOU there are at least 4-5 GM's that would make that trade in a second although the Canucks may not get as much of a return as they would if they traded Schneider instead.
The difference is that that situation happened almost by accident. Elliott was picked up for pennies after he was chased out of Ottawa and Colorado. Halak had a very mediocre year last year. Neither was expected to be awesome but under Hitchcock, they thrived. This situation only happened this year. Both are signed through next year but I expect one of them to be dealt eventually if they keep up their stellar play.
Lu and Schnoo happened last year and Luongo has been an established starter for years, something neither Halak nor Elliott have ever been for an extended period of time.
You also have to consider the salary cap. The Tim Thomas situation in Boston only works because they have a ton of ELC and they expect Thomas to retire in a year or two. If Lu was 38 rather than 32, this would be a MUCH different situation.
hm...i was thinking with the torres and the rome incidents...both were, hopefully what you would call 'hockey hits' which were then handed out severe punishments (in rome's case)...there was the asham cross check, the weber turnbuckle head smash, to an extent, the carkner head bashing...and the max they get for those is 4 games...
is it really because of precedence? or am i not getting why a crosscheck to the neck should warrant like 10 games instead of just 4?
I'm surprised AV announced who's the starter so "fast" before the game.
He should have just announced it publicly right before the game starts so no one has time to be thinking/talking so much about the decision.
It's like you give a few hours of notice, and 10 articles could pop up within that window of opportunity.
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I'm surprised AV announced who's the starter so "fast" before the game.
He should have just announced it publicly right before the game starts so no one has time to be thinking/talking so much about the decision.
It's like you give a few hours of notice, and 10 articles could pop up within that window of opportunity.
pretty much......with that said... almost puck drop
Only our core players have NTCs. MG has done a great job. Eight players (Sedins, Kesler, Manny, Bieksa, Hamhuis, Salo and Lu) have NTCs.
If you want to see NTCs handed out like candy, take a look at Calgary before you criticize Gillis, who is easily the best GM we've ever had. Calgary has 11 (...Matt Stajan!?).
Gillis had to give NTCs because all those players took discounts to stay with the Canucks. It's pretty standard to do when a player takes a hometown deal.
IIRC malhotra has one and kesler doesnt..same with burrows