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[Mikoyan]

Originally Posted by underscore

Swifties are weird, they'll clog up everything vaguely near the concerts just to be near it if they didn't get a ticket. Whatever the capacity of the venue is there's probably going to be double that in the surrounding area.

I'm not looking forward to fighting my way through that to get to the Blue Jackets game tonight. We bought tickets to the game a couple weeks ago to take the kids and didn't realize the concert was the same day.

[Badhobz]

all these fangirls/fanboys are weird. what kind of a retard idolizes another retard???

i don't even like jebus. fuck him and the cross he's hanging on.

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

I think the answer has to be cutting the fat which almost certainly involves rural communities. Have once a week delivery to a mail box etc. or at the very least, costs must increase even further to justify the delivery to remote communities

Like.. even at current prices which seem high to most, I thought sending a box to Toronto for whatever it is, $25 and it gets there in 2-3 days is pretty good. For the few times I do that I’d probably pay double. But then the trickle down effect for small business etc. obviously hurts them. But then again, deliver parcels and delivery’s to hubs where the customer has to pick them up as opposed to door delivery.

I always found it interesting growing up in Fraser Heights that it was about half and half of my friends who got door delivery, and the other half had to go to those pedestal mail boxes for their mail. Make the whole neighborhood go to those boxes and your costs would have slashed instantly

Canada is too big for this model

Typically a 50x50x40cm 6KG box from Van to Toronto is around $40-50 actually, via CP. Puro rates are closer to $25-$35. The rates of shipping is stupid here regardless of which courier. In the US, USPS and all other couriers ship for so cheap.

I sent a box of brake pads and brake fluid to CT from WA and it cost me $16 CAD... if I sent it from Vancouver, it would have cost $60. Stupid af.

Also Richmond has a few neighborhoods like that - community mailbox.

[westopher]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

all these fangirls/fanboys are weird. what kind of a retard idolizes another retard???

i don't even like jebus. fuck him and the cross he's hanging on.

There literally have been studies that show people that celebrity worship are less intelligent.
Don't get me wrong, I love live music and there are plenty of bands and musicians I'd be excited to meet, but your not gonna catch me sobbing and spending the last $300 in my bank account on a tour sweatshirt I waited 6 hours to buy.

[donk.]

There are people flying in from toronto, cali, miami, etc to see taylor, this is after spending 1000-3000$ on a ticket, and once the show is over they are flying home, many of which are staying at the airport hotels for a whopping 1200$/night

Taylor to them is like cars to us, 99% of the world cant comprehend it

[Traum]

Not sure why you think I don't respect the job postal workers have.

Salary for a job should always be commensurate to a variety of factors like the amount of skill required, market demand, the risk involved, ick factor / desirability, how demanding the job is, job location, etc. In that sense, I don't think most postal worker jobs should be considered to be extremely difficult to do, or require a huge amount of skills. It is physically demanding for mail carriers -- I recognize that. I also said that their wage is comfortable, not generous. Coming from a gov employee such as yourself, I'm sure you recognize the financial value that their defined pension carries, and as is always the case, that offsets the immediate salary a CP employee receives.

In your friend's case, if the job is awful and the renumeration isn't enough to cover mileage and the expenses incurred, nobody should have taken the job. When CP couldn't find anyone willing to do the work, they'd have to up the salary / renumeration package to make it more desirable. That is literally how the job market is supposed to work. Same thing applies to your claim that $32.50/hr wage is too low for Metro Vancouver or Toronto -- when it is indeed too low, people should quit the job and seek better opportunities. When the employer realizes that people are not willing to do the job bcos of the low wage, they have to up the salary (or make up some fake job requirements and hire TFW).

I know that is my conservative brain doing the talking. But this is work / employment / business operations, not charity.

On the other hand, I think I've also pretty clearly indicated that I understand the difficulty CP faces with all the remote areas they must service. That instantly puts them at an innate disadvantage on operating costs. IMO because of those ridiculously unprofitable service requirements, being a crown corp is not exactly the most appropriate way for CP to set itself up. If Canadians deem mail and parcel delivery should be a public service covering all habitable areas, then CP should be set up as such and receive gov funding, instead of operating as a crown corp.

I am neutral on the subject myself. But what I'm saying is, the crown corp model doesn't really work when its business model is financially unsustainable. And right now, the Canada Post business model is not financially sustainable (and hasn't been for some time).

Management seeking higher compensation and bonuses for themselves at the expense of workers is nothing new, and of course that doesn't make it right.

Originally Posted by 68style

It's clear you just don't respect the job of delivering things, which is understandable as it doesn't really take any particularly special set of skills.

[westopher]

It's not really necessarily supposed to be financially sustainable though. It's a necessary piece of a functioning society. It's like roads and schools. They don't, at the end of the day create revenue that sustains them, however, the impacts of having them exist allows revenue to be created elsewhere.
The perfect example is the revenue lost by small business as the result of this strike. When the $80 of your taxes goes to a service that allows thousands of dollars to move in the local economy, per that $80, that's an investment into an essential service.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by underscore

Swifties are weird, they'll clog up everything vaguely near the concerts just to be near it if they didn't get a ticket. Whatever the capacity of the venue is there's probably going to be double that in the surrounding area.

I am not a Swiftie myself, and I don't find her music all that engaging. But I am very happy to see Vancouver hosting celebrities and concerts like the Eras tour instead of BS World Cups / Olympics because these celebrity concerts don't receive public funding, and actually generate a ton of revenue for our cities instead of having questionable economic benefits.

Can we have Ed Sheeran next?

[Badhobz]

just don't invite those Korean BTS fags here... my friend's wife will cream her pants so much she'll crash her stupid LCI e90 again.

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by westopher

There literally have been studies that show people that celebrity worship are less intelligent.
Don't get me wrong, I love live music and there are plenty of bands and musicians I'd be excited to meet, but your not gonna catch me sobbing and spending the last $300 in my bank account on a tour sweatshirt I waited 6 hours to buy.

I guess I'm a genius. For the life of me I cannot recognize any artists/celebs names or faces. Don't ask me what the song title is, artist name, or actor. Idk. I have no clue and I don't care. Usher showed up on my Spotify wrapped and I had to ask who is this black guy talking.

Tho this makes me socially retarded cause it's a huge point for everyone else.

[underscore]

Originally Posted by Traum

I am not a Swiftie myself, and I don't find her music all that engaging. But I am very happy to see Vancouver hosting celebrities and concerts like the Eras tour instead of BS World Cups / Olympics because these celebrity concerts don't receive public funding, and actually generate a ton of revenue for our cities instead of having questionable economic benefits.

Can we have Ed Sheeran next?

I don't really care one way or the other if they want to have these concerts but when I've gotten multiple emails from companies offering ticket giveaways, social media full of Spotify wrapped screenshots of nothing but her meh music and being mentioned all over the place for months I'm kinda sick of this one.

[Mikoyan]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

just don't invite those Korean BTS fags here... my friend's wife will cream her pants so much she'll crash her stupid LCI e90 again.

Spotted last month.

[mikemhg]

Jeez what's up with some of the poopooing on Canada Post? I support these guys, why do we want this race to the bottom?

I see so many posts on this forum complaining about TFWs and all the Indian immigrants, would you want these same guys working poverty wages to deliver all your mail? I don't want the likes of Amazon running our entire delivery infrastructure.

My local posty is an Asian dude, really nice guy, he always makes sure to buzz me specifically to come down and grab my packages when he comes through so I avoid the bloody post-note where I have to go grab it from the facility. We have a quick chat, and it's nice seeing the same face as opposed to the random Amazon delivery guy.

I want that guy to be paid fairly, and I think he deserves his job, some of us have become conditioned to be bloody boot lickers nowadays.

[Badhobz]

stop holding him up Mikey!!! fuck he's got an underpaid job to do, last thing he needs is to talk to you about working out and rap songs.

whats wrong with Manjeet throwing amazon packages at your house while talking loudly on his Bluetooth headset?

I'm like THANKS BUDDY GUY!!!

[tegra7]

Originally Posted by westopher

It's not going to just be people going to the concert. I'm sure some people are coming over just to be around the fuckshow that it's going to be.
OMG I WENT TO TAY TAY AFTER PARTY AT LIBRARY SWUARE SO CRAZY

News 1130 interviewed some people who flew down here with no concert tickets that just want to be around while TS is in town.

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I hope the border isnt too congested. I have a package to pick up.

[bobbinka]

[Hondaracer]

I’ll always be in the pay more camp.

That doesn’t mean I’m some govt. knob who wants to keep paying more and more taxes on a bloated, pathetically managed system though.

Ie. I pay more taxes for city utilities and services and fast forward, they don’t even pickup my leaves or sweep my street. Fuck that.

[Traum]

I agree with the pay more, fewer TFW option too. That's how normal market forces should work. The TFW option that large corporations are using is really a loophole that should have been clamped down on by the federal gov. I dunno why they didn't do that -- perhaps more of those stupid lobby groups hired by the big firms helping to screw the average citizen over?

[Vancouver240sx]

On the Purolator website:

"Purolator's revenue for 2023 was $2.7 billion"

Also from their website:

"Purolator is a Canadian courier that is owned by Canada Post (91%), Rainmaker Investments Ltd. (7%) and others (2%)."

So when Canada post says:

"For 2023, the Corporation recorded a loss before tax of $748 million"

Perhaps there is some creative accounting going on and some media manipulation to influence the public that cheaper workers are warranted for CP.

Rich

[Eff-1]

Watch this video on Canada Post before debating. It clears up a few misconceptions about the strike.

YouTube

[Hondaracer]

lol that video is literally EXACTLY what I’ve been saying for the last two pages.

This is akin to Ubers and Taxis, albeit Taxis aren’t a crown corp. but in the same breathe, unions can’t sit around waiting for a FOR PROFIT company to award them a wage increase that will in turn be the death of the workplace lol.. it’s not too hard to see when all those fiscal reports are laying there for everyone to see.

Tbh is sounds like, in typical fashion, the union is delusional to the reality of the situation.

[Great68]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

Of all weekends, why would you choose this weekend to visit? Did it have to be this weekend? I've never heard of walk ons being fully booked!

Why the hell are Islanders coming to mainland for Swift ... surely, not all of them have tickets to the concert !!

Since my parents are on the mainland, and my wife's mom is here on the island we alternate Christmas every year. This year is an Island Christmas. But my mom still wanted to have a weekend with a family dinner/get together, and this was the weekend that she chose that worked for all of us. It was planned a month ago. Had no idea it was Taylor swift weekend at the time... None of us are up on the pop culture news, I don't pay attention to this shit I literally didn't know about this concert until like a week ago lol

[CivicBlues]

It's not even pop culture news, it's all over mainstream news. All the major networks have been reporting on this for weeks now, even months ago when she was in Toronto.

Look at dropping a few hundy on a Harbour Air flight would be my advice.

[Great68]

I guess I live under a rock. If it was on the news I care about Taylor Swift so little my brain tuned it out.

It's all good, we got a reso for the 9:00pm. Will hit the Stonehouse pub for dinner before hand.

[Traum]

The About That video is pretty much siding with my original suggestion that the union is being unrealistic with their demands. As far as I can see, since mail volume is down, while parcel volume is up, the natural course of action is to cutback staff / frequency of mail delivery, and shift those staff hours to work on parcel delivery instead. Because if you don't do this, the whole CP ship is going to sink -- CP is gonna run out of money to operate.

One major obstacle here seems to be the requirement to give overtime pay to full time staff for working on the weekend. IMO, the most sensible solution is to change that requirement into having an OT pay structure that is far more common -- exceed your 40 hour work week, and then you start paying overtime. If you combine that with a reduction in mail delivery frequency (during the week), existing CP staff can keep their FT jobs, and there is no need / a much smaller need to hire PT workers to cover the weekend (Saturday) shifts.

I am against CP going into Sunday deliveries.

Any business facing a changing business operating environment would have to adapt if they want to survive. In this case, I feel like the union is the one unwilling to adapt.