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Too bad it's almost impossible to get one regardless of
I actually thought about putting my downplayment money towards one as this would be one of those cars that would appreciate in value but 918 owners get first dibs and only 991 units produced. ...so no chance
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Serious question, what's so good about this car?
I did some Google research before I posted this, but I don't find anything impressive by today's standard.
493hp, 338lb-ft,
3021 pounds
0-60mph: 3.8 sec
top speed: 200mph
What's so "pure" about this thing? I know they have used all the expensive materials like magnesium and titanium, but frankly Rauh Welt 911s are much lighter than this.
(yes, I know RWB 911s have no luxury interior and all the gadget this thing comes with)
I am still not convinced that this is anything impressive...unless I missed something.
Lotus makes more "pure" cars than Porsche in my opinion.
If you're the sort of Porsche customer who has bought a number of high-end cars from the maker they will do almost anything you ask.
It's crazy to me how losers like myself can't get a paint-to-sample GT4, but if you had previously purchased a 918 they will paint your GT4 hot pink if you ask.
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I agree its far from a pure car with all the electronics still in there but its nice to see they are offering a manual on a GT3. The GT3 has always been the most "pure" 911 out there IMO and was a bit disappointing to hear there 991 GT3 was PDK only.
This car is not all about the manual transmission to a porsche fan. It's about combination of parts that makes the perfect 911 to a driver plus the heritage of the 1967 911r. If I could afford one and can get an allocation, I'd buy one without thinking twice. IMO it's the best street/mountain 911 to date. It would be perfect having one beside a GT3 RS but it's not replacement for it.
The only reason this thing is getting media attention is because it's made by Porsche and it's their new lineup.
If 3rd party tuner were to mod a 911 GT3 and make it exact same spec, same weight, color, power, everything....nobody would've given 2 shits about it. Why? Because it's nothing impressive.
It also does not live up to "pure" hype.
I'm sure we can all agree that "pure" 911 has already been built by 911 enthusiast.
Singer is in a entirely different price bracket though. 911R is 210k Cad, a singer is nearly 400k USD. Find me another 911 with 4.0L, manual transmission and 500hp for around $200k.
For the same $$, Id take a singer for sure. Singer is impressive, every 911 fans' dream actually, but it does come at a price.
While the specs are decent, the look just does nothing for me It looks like a hipster wearing a beret. After that I dont really care how fast it is because I'd just buy an atom full spec atom if I only cared about going fast.
RWB, Techart, Singer etc are all nice and well
but I always see more value in a wholesome package from factory vs aftermarket
not to mention none of those cars are brand new...the only exception is RUF
Timpo I can't believe I'm responding to you...sometimes less is more. The design around this car clearly isn't about spec numbers...except for maybe its weight.
I'm glad to see a big company like porche actually making something for purists in manual form. In fact nowadays, the fastest vehicles aren't even pure gasoline engines anymore. There's no better feeling that shifting through the gears yourself. I hated every single day of my automatic Evo when I owned it.
I'm glad to see a big company like porche actually making something for purists in manual form. In fact nowadays, the fastest vehicles aren't even pure gasoline engines anymore. There's no better feeling that shifting through the gears yourself. I hated every single day of my automatic Evo when I owned it.
Car enthusiasts complain because there's no manual shift. Before then, they were complaining about fuel injection instead of carburetor for some reason. Same as ABS, traction control, launch control, stability control, etc.
Motorcycle enthusiasts complain because of fuel injection and electric start. They like to choke the engine, kick start, warm it up for 2 min and go. Many of them don't like Panigale and R1M because of modern technology. That's why people are bringing back cafe racers.
Airplane enthusiasts complain because of modern electronics. They like to use magnetos, fuel primer, adjust mixture, warm it up, etc. and go. They don't like Vanair, Glasair or Lancair making modern electornics with glass cockpit. They like to stick with taildraggers like Piper Cub and Cessna 120 or something.