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OK now that Trump's baby rage has pretty much turned to whimpers, I guess we can stop talking about losers and start talking about the new president. We can still make fun of trump in his own thread now that he's just a harmless loser, or at least will soon be.
US politics are fascinating these days, but I understand if people don't even want to talk about it. I get it
One issue that most American progressive voters have is that their only alternative to Republicans and Trump is pretty might a party that is barely left of center (and in most countries they'd be the right wing party lol). I doubt the Biden and Democrats will actually run a progressive cabinet, despite trying to look that way. Obama didn't either, so we shouldn't be surprised.
It's starting to be more apparent as people talk about his cabinet selections. Here we have Jamaal Bowman criticizing right wing picks, and he just gets cut off by CNN
People are talking about the right splitting off into the conservative GOP and then an ultra conservative nationalist party headed by Trump. I speculate if that happens, would the Dems just take advantage of that vote split? Or would someone take the opportunity to push the Greens or another progressive party as a viable option?
They can when you're mostly observing from the outside
Also it's been fascinating to see how things have changed over the years with social media and media in general. Usually not for the better, but in some ways it is. It's so crazy!
Saw Biden’s speech this week and not surprisingly, was less than impressed. He had a tough time with the teleprompter and even had to wipe drool at one point. That said, still better than Trump.
Inb4 Kamala Harris is the first female president.
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Saw Biden’s speech this week and not surprisingly, was less than impressed. He had a tough time with the teleprompter and even had to wipe drool at one point. That said, still better than Trump.
Inb4 Kamala Harris is the first female president.
That thought was in my head before I could even finish reading your sentence.
Biden at his worst would probably be better than Trump at his best.
I feel regardless of what happens at least there will be some calm and won’t have to read insane lies every day or someone gaslighting / making you doubt reality... maybe they’ll lie about shit I don’t know about but I can deal with that lol, every government in the USA is going to do that.
Results are still pending on the runoff election in GA, but I am expecting the GOP to at least pick up 1 seat in Georgia to give themselves a Senate majority -- that seems to be the more likely outcome. So if that was the case, I'd expect 4 years' worth of lame duck presidency out of the Biden-Harris team. And then somewhere along the line, Biden is gonna croak, and then it'd get really "interesting" with Harris as POTUS...
Biden legitimately has no business being president. He was nominated by the DNC because he is the absolute definition of the DNC political system cronyism along with Pelosi etc and the only one from that group dumb enough to run for president. The primaries were a farce and waste of money, everyone knew Biden was the chosen one from the beginning. Trump might be an idiot but Washington is definitely a swamp. He's a 78 year old, old man who clearly is advanced in his age, and hardly has any ideas of his own and clearly won't be a good president. He is the figure head that the DNC put forward that they can easily control.
And people only voted for him because he wast Trump. There's probably not too many people in America who voted for Biden for his policies and actually had a reason that didn't involve trump. And the media and social media obviously had an affect on public opinion. It's also hilarious that Harris was brought on as VP for the black and woman vote. After they tore her apart in the primaries for being horrible for blacks when she was AG and prosecuter in California.
So here we are, it will be interesting to see how America likes what they have in 2 years when the "thank God trumps gone" wears off. Biden isn't suddenly the fix for all of America's problems, and trump wasn't all of America's problems either. American divisision is America's problem and the gap between the 2 sides isn't getting closer together.
Biden legitimately has no business being president. He was nominated by the DNC because he is the absolute definition of the DNC political system cronyism along with Pelosi etc and the only one from that group dumb enough to run for president. The primaries were a farce and waste of money, everyone knew Biden was the chosen one from the beginning. Trump might be an idiot but Washington is definitely a swamp. He's a 78 year old, old man who clearly is advanced in his age, and hardly has any ideas of his own and clearly won't be a good president. He is the figure head that the DNC put forward that they can easily control.
And people only voted for him because he wast Trump. There's probably not too many people in America who voted for Biden for his policies and actually had a reason that didn't involve trump. And the media and social media obviously had an affect on public opinion. It's also hilarious that Harris was brought on as VP for the black and woman vote. After they tore her apart in the primaries for being horrible for blacks when she was AG and prosecuter in California.
So here we are, it will be interesting to see how America likes what they have in 2 years when the "thank God trumps gone" wears off. Biden isn't suddenly the fix for all of America's problems, and trump wasn't all of America's problems either. American divisision is America's problem and the gap between the 2 sides isn't getting closer together.
I agree mostly with what you say, but IMO voting for him "because he wasn't Trump" is a very valid reason. Dems took advantage of that, but in the end you have to blame the people who voted for Trump for putting the country where it is now.
Biden legitimately has no business being president. He was nominated by the DNC because he is the absolute definition of the DNC political system cronyism along with Pelosi etc and the only one from that group dumb enough to run for president. The primaries were a farce and waste of money, everyone knew Biden was the chosen one from the beginning. Trump might be an idiot but Washington is definitely a swamp. He's a 78 year old, old man who clearly is advanced in his age, and hardly has any ideas of his own and clearly won't be a good president. He is the figure head that the DNC put forward that they can easily control.
And people only voted for him because he wast Trump. There's probably not too many people in America who voted for Biden for his policies and actually had a reason that didn't involve trump. And the media and social media obviously had an affect on public opinion. It's also hilarious that Harris was brought on as VP for the black and woman vote. After they tore her apart in the primaries for being horrible for blacks when she was AG and prosecuter in California.
So here we are, it will be interesting to see how America likes what they have in 2 years when the "thank God trumps gone" wears off. Biden isn't suddenly the fix for all of America's problems, and trump wasn't all of America's problems either. American divisision is America's problem and the gap between the 2 sides isn't getting closer together.
Which is exactly why this archaic two party system needs to be laid to rest.
Perhaps Trump will be the catalyst to make that happen by forming some type of ultra-right party. That could open the door to a alternative version of a left-wing party. I'm probably full of shit though, and it'll never happen.
The main detriment of the Democratic party is it's hierarchical structure, in the party you need to "pay your dues" in order to gain leadership, it's not a meritocracy, almost union-like. Obama was an albatross to that because he was such a proficient candidate. To the Republican's credit, they don't buy into that same structure, a newbie like Trump can come in and gain leadership in an extremely quick manner, they care more about who will simply win, for them power is the utmost precedence, and less tenure.
Listen, Biden isn't the best choice, we all know that. Keep in mind it's about his cabinet, and the people he surrounds himself that matter, given his choices thus far, I'm quite confident he'll do a decent job.