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Old 11-01-2024, 02:52 PM   #101
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I mean he could just buy a sim racing rig ($800-15k+) depending on what type of setup he wants. There's plenty of used ones and that's still cheaper than potentially writing off his CTR and the wear-and-tear items.

Axon is good but that's not necessary to have fun with sim racing.
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Yeah so this goes beyond finding a partner or having expensive hobbies.

If you're influenced to make major life decisions based on the perceptions or perceived perceptions of your peer group at the cost of your own well being and capabilities...you're going to have to bad time.

So basically fancy way of saying peer pressure sucks. Until you get over it and stop caring that type of anxiety is not going to magically go away if you start making > $60K or even $100K. Because now your friends have leveled up and started making more as well and have moved on to even more expensive hobbies.
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What the fuck ?! Do you and I know the same Tiffany ?

She should change her name to alexia. At least that why she’ll have more utility.

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I was just thinking about bic’s predicament, that this is exactly why I didn’t want kids.

The stress these kids are under nowadays are exponentially higher than when we were growing up. Like in my high school if you had that base model celica you were a GOD amongst men. The standards are all so far out of whack that I’m really not sure how their egos dont shatter into a million pieces.

P.s in before you guys tell me to get back to Vancouver and fix this strike problem. I didn’t do it !!!
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Bobbinkas advice is spot on. You do not need a $40k car with a $60k salary. I know it might not seem like much, but $500/month goes a long way if you’re investing that regularly into a S&P index fund instead. Car payments keep poor people poor. There’s no problem tracking an older civic si or Miata/frs/brz.

Don’t be that guy that cares what others think of you. I know of someone in his early 30s handed a $100k down payment for a condo with a 500k mortgage and he’s struggling. He has $60-70k in credit card debt and is working cash jobs to avoid taxes. He’s missed multiple mortgage payments and found a younger girlfriend to move in with him to pay rent.

He drove a stupid Audi to flex and sold it to buy a Tesla to do Uber. However, he was rejected for his finance application (prob 84 months 7%) and had to use his girlfriends name to finance it. His justification was he’ll save $500/month in gas and he’ll make 10k a month doing Uber. I feel bad for the young girl as she’s kind of naive. This guy cares about his image and perception so much that he’s in crippling debt, don’t be like that guy. He’s always full of excuses and BS to as why he needs to do what he does.

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I was just thinking about bic’s predicament, that this is exactly why I didn’t want kids.

The stress these kids are under nowadays are exponentially higher than when we were growing up. Like in my high school if you had that base model celica you were a GOD amongst men. The standards are all so far out of whack that I’m really not sure how their egos dont shatter into a million pieces.

P.s in before you guys tell me to get back to Vancouver and fix this strike problem. I didn’t do it !!!
At the same time that things have gotten increasingly hard for kids, I also think parents have become a lot more conscious and intentional about parenthood.

Take a look at the Parental Thread and compare any random post from the RS dads, to how our folks raised us. I mean back in the day, the bar was just to make sure you were fed, and beat you every once in a while.

I think you especially, would make a great dad. If you decide it's right for you. And it won't even be a question of "ship has sailed". We have the technology. There's IVF, surrogacy, adoption.
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I was just thinking about bic’s predicament, that this is exactly why I didn’t want kids.

The stress these kids are under nowadays are exponentially higher than when we were growing up. Like in my high school if you had that base model celica you were a GOD amongst men. The standards are all so far out of whack that I’m really not sure how their egos dont shatter into a million pieces.

P.s in before you guys tell me to get back to Vancouver and fix this strike problem. I didn’t do it !!!
I heard richmond high schools had a ton of nice cars in the student parking lot back in the days like M3, SLK, C55 AMG, G35 coupe, S2000, WRX STi. But I never heard of a kid driving to school with a Porsche 911 or a Ferrari until their parents got them one for getting into UBC.
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When I was in HS, if you had a car that ran, you were way ahead of almost anyone else. Friends in my group had an old AMC Pacer, a 91 Firefly, one had a 1988 Celica that was actually really nice. I had a 79 Corolla coupe, same year I was born . We all put money into our stereo systems over anything else, only to get it stolen. I don't know anyone into car audio that didn't get it stolen eventually.

At the time, I lived in a different world than what was going on in Richmond (edit: during this time, before I met her, my wife was driving a 300ZX)
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I heard richmond high schools had a ton of nice cars in the student parking lot back in the days like M3, SLK, C55 AMG, G35 coupe, S2000, WRX STi. But I never heard of a kid driving to school with a Porsche 911 or a Ferrari until their parents got them one for getting into UBC.
You know, as a parent, I wouldn't blink at buying my kid a Ferrari if it meant a guarantee they'd study hard enough / stay off drugs long enough to get into post-secondary. I'd reverse-mortgage my house, downsize, and/or delay my retirement if I had to. That's an easy sacrifice.

The reason I wouldn't, is because it would really fuck up their lives.
  1. What the hell could you even aspire to if you'd already had the best? What's the point anymore? There's just nothing to work towards. It's like starting an RPG at Lvl 99. It's fun for all of 15 minutes and then it's like "what are we doing here?".
  2. What's after the Ferrari? That's the end game. It's all downhill from there. How could you derive ay happiness from driving any other car after owning something like that?
  3. Makes them weak. If we've learned anything from Dragonball Z, it's that you only get stronger by getting your ass kicked through hardship.
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@BIC_BAWS - Best of luck bro, remember, the track will always gonna be there for you. No matter what.

One day I'll be there with a 08 Carrera S too.
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Isn't the adage about tracking a car that you should only track something you can afford to write off? I don't see how you can afford to write off the CTR with your financial situation.
It'll also make the track day more enjoyable when you haven't got that worry in the back of your head the whole time. It's not quite the same thing but I changed my offroader from my (relatively) expensive daily to a cheap toy that I could write off without it causing any financial issues. Doing that made going out a lot more relaxing and enjoyable because it removed what I didn't realize was actually a huge source of stress, from something that was meant to be a fun activity.
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You know, as a parent, I wouldn't blink at buying my kid a Ferrari if it meant a guarantee they'd study hard enough / stay off drugs long enough to get into post-secondary. I'd reverse-mortgage my house, downsize, and/or delay my retirement if I had to. That's an easy sacrifice.

The reason I wouldn't, is because it would really fuck up their lives.
  1. What the hell could you even aspire to if you'd already had the best? What's the point anymore? There's just nothing to work towards. It's like starting an RPG at Lvl 99. It's fun for all of 15 minutes and then it's like "what are we doing here?".
  2. What's after the Ferrari? That's the end game. It's all downhill from there. How could you derive ay happiness from driving any other car after owning something like that?
  3. Makes them weak. If we've learned anything from Dragonball Z, it's that you only get stronger by getting your ass kicked through hardship.
It’s like anything like that.. you’re never at a point where you feel like you made a huge jump.

I owned an investment condo in Whalley in 2008, there was a time I considered living in it, spent ample time there renovating and touching up between tenants etc.

I then lived by Lougheed mall in Burnaby, an obvious step up, nice 1000 sq ft 2 bed unit albeit 30 years old, was great I enjoyed it.

Now have a detached in Vancouver, love it, put like 200-300k of sweat equity into it on top of all the actual money, and the headaches of having a detached home, etc.

If you have a place to live, like the difference between some condo and a 5 million dollar home isn’t what you think in your head.

If I went from my current place to a 5-6 million dollar home, I wouldn’t be 5x as happy as I am now.

I see this a lot on IG with like these lifestyles of the rich skiiing in St.Moritz and driving lambos and Ferraris and having cocktail hour at the LV store etc.

I’m like, if you went from your average life going to crystal lodge in whistler to st.moritz in this high society soirée drinking champagne and eating caviar slope side, you’d realize pretty quick that the amount of net worth needed to have this slight change in lifestyle is hardly worth this perceived “upgrade” it just becomes the new norm.

I also don’t know a single “wealthy” person (20+ million dollar net worth) who isn’t a workaholic to the point of being a detriment to relationships and family.

If you make 60k or 600k I think it’s about living within your means and using your time and money effectively. TBH BIC, I think you’ve already got a leg up on most people to some degree, you’re just focusing your energy and time in the wrong places.
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One day I'll be there with a 08 Carrera S too.
Don't get a 2008 Carrera, man. The 2009 car is the facelifted model, and it is much better in a lot of different ways. New DI engine that is far less prone to bore scoring, no IMS issue, PDK, updated for a more modern look, etc.
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Don't get a 2008 Carrera, man. The 2009 car is the facelifted model, and it is much better in a lot of different ways. New DI engine that is far less prone to bore scoring, no IMS issue, PDK, updated for a more modern look, etc.
Thanks but no thanks, I'll stick to manually jerking my knob.

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I heard richmond high schools had a ton of nice cars in the student parking lot back in the days like M3, SLK, C55 AMG, G35 coupe, S2000, WRX STi. But I never heard of a kid driving to school with a Porsche 911 or a Ferrari until their parents got them one for getting into UBC.
This sounds like the first episode of Beverly Hills 90210 when the brokie Walsh’s go to their new school

I’m dating myself if only the old farts remember that show
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I know of someone in his early 30s handed a $100k down payment for a condo with a 500k mortgage and he’s struggling. He has $60-70k in credit card debt and is working cash jobs to avoid taxes. He’s missed multiple mortgage payments and found a younger girlfriend to move in with him to pay rent.

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This reminds me of a poor lady, an immigrant who came to the country doing house cleaning to get by. She eventually turned it into a business, hired staff and expanded. She was doing good, not rich, but well enough. Then she got married. What she didn't know was that the guy she married had a crippling amount of debt.

She thought she loved this guy. And based on her upbringing, culture, sense of responsibility, she believed that the right thing to do was to try and help him pay off his debt. She couldn't. And not only that, she ended up putting her business into debt trying to "save" him. The mofo was using her to fund his extravagant life. It's fucking sick. There's no happy ending here.
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Unfortunately, this kind of story is hardly new. I've even heard of similar incidents happening among my extended circle of friends.

The real question is though -- why am I not able to find a sugar mama like this though? All I'd ever ask for is to have her fund me and my fast cars habit.
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This reminds me of a poor lady, an immigrant who came to the country doing house cleaning to get by. She eventually turned it into a business, hired staff and expanded. She was doing good, not rich, but well enough. Then she got married. What she didn't know was that the guy she married had a crippling amount of debt.

She thought she loved this guy. And based on her upbringing, culture, sense of responsibility, she believed that the right thing to do was to try and help him pay off his debt. She couldn't. And not only that, she ended up putting her business into debt trying to "save" him. The mofo was using her to fund his extravagant life. It's fucking sick. There's no happy ending here.
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being single up until recently and also age 40, my friends were suggesting more and more often that I consider finding a sugar momma lol. meanwhile hobz is sitting on multiple girls try to get his peen into their... homes.
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being single up until recently and also age 40, my friends were suggesting more and more often that I consider finding a sugar momma lol. meanwhile hobz is sitting on multiple girls try to get his peen into their... homes.
Stupid home wrecking whores !!! The only one for me is spy ballooooon. She’s the best sassy little cunt in the world. Plus I’m genuinely scared of her voodoo witch powers. She seems to be able curse me if I don’t listen to her tiny 5 foot nothing ass.
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