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Old 03-05-2026, 10:43 AM   #601
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I'm going to try an actual PR all out, sub 25:00 just to lock it in before john summit.


i ordered fenix 7 and epix gen 2, will see how bulky
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:17 AM   #602
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I am not too worried about my mom bcos I think she stays active enough from chasing after the grandkids as well as gardening. It is my old man that I am a lot more worried about, as he has grown increasingly sedatary and reclusive over time.

The irony is -- when he actually goes out -- for the the few things he still enjoys, he really enjoys the outing and activities and it shows. Unfortunately, it also seems like he doesn't realize how much more pleasant and healthy that makes him, and he almost never actively pursue those activities, even at our urging.
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I'm also trying to get my wife to change her sedentary ways as well - not much luck there either.
I am in exactly the same situation as well, but the problem with le wifey is -- as a self-employed / small business owner, she can never finish her work. There is always something "important" that needs to be done.

She used to be an avid hiker, and back in the day, we used to hike at least every other week. So she is not inherently opposed to going out for physical activities and such.

She is not oblivious to the fact that she needs to have a much better work-life balance, but despite that, she continues to to sink massive amounts of time into work. I question the necessity of that, but I can't deny the mountain pile of work that is always waiting to be done. And when she is not working, it is probably bcos she is already physically or mentally tapped out, and that makes it difficult to drag her out to do physical things that will keep her active.

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Sounds like an opportunity to grow her business. I know someone who can help with that.
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25:40 5KM PR today!


buying a garmin watch now, fenix, epic or 4runner?

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Just running? Forerunner
Fenix/Epic have nice stamina stats and the golf features
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So it has been almost 3 weeks (I think?) since I started jogging / walking. I dunno if I can actually call it jogging since I have generally only been able to jog at least twice a week for some 10 - 15 min each time before I'm tired out. IMO it really isn't that much running.

Unsurprisingly, improvements have been slow and minor, but I believe they are there. With the most recent run (yesterday) for example, my legs still felt spent after the run, and my lungs still felt like they were burning up. But the lung burning didn't feel as intense as it did 2 - 3 weeks ago when I first started, and I didn't actually lose the fine motor control to operate my gas / brake / clutch when I went to pick up le wifey after the run. So the gains were noticeable, even if they are small.

Objectively, I gave into my curiousity and bought a new / near new fitness tracker off FBM for cheap. Because it was a fairly basic model, it was only showing me a bunch of fairly standard stats. Aside from satisfying my own curiosity on what my vitals are like at various times, I am not entirely sure how I can maximize the health benefits from the stats I've been provided with. The single biggest health improvement measure that I am using the fitness tracker for right now is -- it tells me the number of steps I have taken each day in near-real time. I've generally been able to walk 7k+ steps each day, so I guess that is an acceptable amount of activity.

I think my pace (of jogging) has almost improved slightly, with it gradually dropping from a low 7.x min per km / low 8.x kph down to a high 6.x min per km / almost 10 kph. Like I said, the improvements are pretty small, and I continue to think the pace is embarassingly slow. But I know I am not doing this for bragging rights. I just want to be a more healthy version of myself while also aging slower LOL~
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definitely sounds like you're on the right path. now combine your steps with some food control and weight lifting and you'll really see some results rather quickly.
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Just running? Forerunner
Fenix/Epic have nice stamina stats and the golf features
all round, running is mostly for health
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36.8 lbs in 12 weeks... my 2000 calorie deficit journey

the diet is finally over and final weigh in is 142.6 lbs, so thats 36.8 lbs in 12 weeks.

here are some quick final thoughts on why i would never do this again. by never do this again, i mean 30 ish lbs in 3 months.

- i can force my inner fat boy to do come crazy shit but he fights me everyday. constant thoughts about food, looking at ig recipes reels, and when/what to eat next.
- easily irritated, anger (mostly just road rage) i can still keep it together with friends/family, and rapid mood swings.
- reduced concentration, it was hard to hold a conversation, like c'mon get to point before i zone out. memory problem, became very forgetful and often space out in a room thinking wtf was i doing. poor judgment, this kinda ties in with the mood swings. i was craving constant little wins (dopamine hit) haha almost bought that red reverse baseball cap. thank god someone beat me to it.
- sleep quality, on my apple watch i only hit a high sleep score of 6 hours maybe a hand full of time. i was averaging around 4 hours of sleep, while in bed for 8. alot of tossing and turning. ive gone to to bed hungry in previous diets but this is the first time ive woken up from being hungry, this feeling truly sucks. maybe im still emotional but i feel like i should make monthly donation to some sort of food bank. you know what saying "no child should go to bed hungry" really hit hard.
- regulating bodily temperature in bed was hard, i was either too cold or too hot. struggling to keep warm outdoors, although we had a pretty mild winter i was freezing everytime i stepped outside.
- i was super careful with not pushing my workouts as i knew with the low calorie intake i would be super susceptible to injuries and slow recover. loss some strength along with muscle but im ok with that.
- with a compromised immune system from not getting enough calories, flu season and living at the gym/sauna/steam room, i only got mildly sick once. i call that a win.
- decreased libido and the times i am DTF is an entire workout itself. im not a young man anymore, aint nobody got the time/energy to fuck like we're in out 20s. when shes not DTF and im in the mood, jerking it just took too long. am i over sharing? maybe, like i said im emotional alright.
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Must be terrible getting road rage but also weighing less than most women if shit were to go down lol
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ive been slowly reintroducing fatty foods back into my diet for the last few days, feels good.

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rebuild loss muscle. hopefully the hotel gym is half decent, but im down to check out the gym scene in china. cardio shouldnt be a problem as im sure we'll be doing a shit ton of walking.
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https://apple.news/AfDTYBZC9Tjy-bLXheAgDZg

For anyone who is an Apple News subscriber - Men's Health article on working out after age 40.

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Sarcopenia Is Real—So Build Muscle Now
Sarcopenia is real. You will lose muscle as you get older. But how much you lose, and when you start losing it, are very much under your control. The best defense against sarcopenia is to build as much muscle as you can, and then work everyday to retain it. The best time to start building that muscle is “long before now." But if “before now” isn’t an option, “now” is where we’ll start.

Exercise Choice Is Critical for Older Joints
Your connective tissues have already started to lose some of their elasticity, which means your joints will be less mobile. That’s why your exercise choices are critical. The wrong ones can damage joints, which matters because...

Injuries Are Serious Business
There are no easy injuries to bounce back from or work through. The days of gritting your teeth and fighting through aches and pains are behind you.

Recovery Is Tougher—and Much More Important
Even without injuries, your work capacity is starting to decline, along with your ability to recuperate from the work you put in. Those of us in middle age simply can’t go balls-out every time we walk into the gym and expect to recover like we could 10 or 20 years ago. It makes much more sense to train more frequently, but to inflict less damage on your muscles and joints in those workouts. The workouts we do are only as good as our ability to recover from them. No recovery, no benefit.

Clock In Consistently if You Want Gains
Consistency trumps intensity. Unless you’re new to lifting, you can’t expect to see progress every single workout—to lift more weight, or lift the same weight for more reps, or grind through a higher volume of sets and reps. Think of it like your job: Much of the time, you’re just trying to get through the day without falling farther behind. Same with your workouts. As long as you show up and get some training in, that’s a win.
There's some stuff I don't quite agree with like not doing barbell squats (they still recommend squats though) but mostly sensible, realistic stuff.
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Been a couple months since my last update...

- Transitioning to my home gym was a little bumpy as it took a while to get it fully set up and for me to get familiar with it and its quirks but the past couple weeks have been really good as I've set few personal bests (RDL, chest rows, bicep curls) now and am consistently getting in 4 workouts. Going to focus on my back squat for the next month - I've stalled out there for the last 3 months and it's falling behind my deadlifts.

- Niggling injuries with my left wrist, right knee, and left shoulder are mostly being managed with my physio. This is one of the spots where working with a trainer has really helped as I've been able to figure out alternative exercises to accommodate these niggling injuries pretty easily (like swapping in a bayesian bicep curl for a preacher curl) and keep working out.

- Weight has held steady around 170 (I want to lose another 15 this year) and I've just been pretty undisciplined with my diet this year. I just enjoy eating too much but I want to drop 10lbs by June or so as I need to get my suit altered by then in prep for an Aug wedding I'm going to.

- My kid quite likes playing with my gym, I got her a couple gymnastic rings and it's great to get her involved.

- Poor quality sleep is a killer for me right now. My kid still co-sleeps with us and the years of doing it have really caused my sleep to be super inconsistent. I wake up in the middle of the night all the time and then I can't fall back asleep for an hour or two. Taking magnesium and melatonin has helped at times.
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My kid still co-sleeps with us and the years of doing it have really caused my sleep to be super inconsistent. I wake up in the middle of the night all the time and then I can't fall back asleep for an hour or two. Taking magnesium and melatonin has helped at times.
Damn. Co-sleeps with both of you?! That's messing up both your sleeping?! Is it uh... too late to sleep train?

Curious if that was a deliberate choice? Builds better bonding or something?
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tried to do a 25min 5KM PR, apple watch didn't read a pace until 400M in.

ended up running 4:15 first lap and abs cramped by 3.3KM.

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I peaced out on a relationship once when a kid was discussed and she said she was adamant about the benefits of co-sleep. Hope whoever she is with now is enjoying that.
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Damn. Co-sleeps with both of you?! That's messing up both your sleeping?! Is it uh... too late to sleep train?

Curious if that was a deliberate choice? Builds better bonding or something?
Definitely not a deliberate choice but our paediatrician is ok with it up to the age of 10. We did sleep train successfully when she was younger and it lasted for year at which point we transitioned to one parent sleeping with her at a time in her room. Now one of us stays with her till she's sleeping then she eventually pops over into our room in the middle of the night - sometimes 1am, sometimes as late as 5am.

It's not bad now (and I mostly enjoy it now) but the years of fighting her over sleep has caused my sleep patterns to be pretty damaged. I just expect to be up in the middle of the night all the time - it's super rare to actually sleep 7 straight hours anymore, maybe once every couple months.
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A friend of mine said his wife fucking breast fed their kid (much to his protest) until the kid was FIVE… that’s the creepiest shit in the world. He’s normal now if not a total momma’s boy but that was absolutely nuts to me.

Co-sleep to 10 outside a hippy commune is pretty beyond anything I would imagine too, but at least it’s sweet in a certain way.
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There's no one way or guide on how to raise kids. Every kid is so different. You think you got it worked out, then you have another and it's different lol.
My first one was ok with being put into bed and lights out. No fuss. Second needed skin to skin contact, so we co slept next to the crib on a matress. Later on, turned out they were just fussy and wanted a toddler crib for the control to exit the bed on their own terms. Would come into our bed in the middle of the night, but we slowly weaned them off of that.
As a parent, sometimes you do whatever works for your kid get them to sleep.
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A friend of mine said his wife fucking breast fed their kid (much to his protest) until the kid was FIVE… that’s the creepiest shit in the world. He’s normal now if not a total momma’s boy but that was absolutely nuts to me.

Co-sleep to 10 outside a hippy commune is pretty beyond anything I would imagine too, but at least it’s sweet in a certain way.
Sounds like in this case they didn't have a choice anyway. The most striking thing to me after having 2 kids, was just how differently wired they were. Some things that came natural with one kid was super hard with the other and vice versa. Gotta pick your battles I guess.

Except maybe the breastfeeding til 5 thing. I dunno about that lol
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A friend of mine said his wife fucking breast fed their kid (much to his protest) until the kid was FIVE… that’s the creepiest shit in the world. He’s normal now if not a total momma’s boy but that was absolutely nuts to me.

Co-sleep to 10 outside a hippy commune is pretty beyond anything I would imagine too, but at least it’s sweet in a certain way.
I think both of these are western cultural norms though - a quick Google search says children will self wean from breast feeding between the age of 2 and 7 - Gemini even mentions that it's a western stigma to breastfeed children past a year of age unlike the rest of the world.

Same with co-sleeping - I've had several Indian co-workers who mention that co-sleeping is the norm for most of a childhood. A Google search comes up with the same kind of result that it's a western norm (specifically North American norm) - it says in Japan that co-sleeping goes past age 10 regularly, in Scandinavia it's common to go to age 8, and that in Asia, Africa and Central/South American it's common to co-sleep till puberty.

Increasingly the research says that both of these result in more well adjusted children. If I were to make a leap of correlation & causation I'd say the US is proof that not co-sleeping and not breastfeeding till age 5 is why they are a 3rd world country. I'm sure Trump would have love to suck on his mom's old titties when he was 5.
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A friend of mine said his wife fucking breast fed their kid (much to his protest) until the kid was FIVE… that’s the creepiest shit in the world. He’s normal now if not a total momma’s boy but that was absolutely nuts to me.

Co-sleep to 10 outside a hippy commune is pretty beyond anything I would imagine too, but at least it’s sweet in a certain way.
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