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01-01-2023, 01:42 PM
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its initial quality. INITAL. fucking that's all honeymoon phase bullshit.
Here's the dependability study which tracks more long term ownership. Tesla on par with jag, nice.
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01-01-2023, 01:59 PM
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I take even the dependability rankings with a grain of salt.
I couldn't find the exact metrics they're using (Sounds like just surveys of owners of the vehicles reporting the problems they experienced), but if they're not weighting the nature of the problems based on severity, than it's little use to me.
Like, I would give very little fucks about if a car is prone to having its heated seats fail, but I give a lot of fucks about serious engine/transmission problems that leave you stranded on the side of the road.
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01-01-2023, 02:18 PM
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#153
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RIP Alfa Romeo
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01-01-2023, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemhg
And Dodge is 2nd?!
What world do we now live in.
How is Chrysler at the bottom of the list and Dodge is 2nd?
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Probably a sample size thing... I mean Chrysler sells 2 cars, the 300 and Pacifica... both are in dying segments... sedans and minivans so neither are hot sellers. The current 300 has been in production since 2011 so I would hope they're reliable by now... lol
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01-01-2023, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Badhobz
its initial quality. INITAL. fucking that's all honeymoon phase bullshit.
Here's the dependability study which tracks more long term ownership. Tesla on par with jag, nice.
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The original talk was about fit, finish, and panel gaps. That's about initial quality.
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01-01-2023, 04:51 PM
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The original talk was about fit, finish, and panel gaps. That's about initial quality.
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The JD initial quality survey does not speak to fit, finish and panel gaps in the ranking. It's a survey of car owners 90 days into the ownership of their new car and what mechanical, electrical, etc problems they may have encountered in that time.
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01-01-2023, 05:04 PM
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What panel gaps get better over time ? I’m not too impressed with JD power but what else can you use as a benchmark in this industry.
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01-01-2023, 05:19 PM
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What I'm saying is that it's not like JD Power is sending people out to physically measure the panel gaps of all new cars and determine which one has the "best overall panel gaps".
The only way something like panel gaps would be a factor is if someone they surveyed actually reported "That huge panel gap is causing my hood not to close properly"
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01-01-2023, 05:21 PM
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True. That’s why initial quality is kinda bs.
Not sure how they even rate it. Dodge owners must be generous as hell.
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01-01-2023, 05:27 PM
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I guess Dodges are very reliable, in their first 90 days of ownership....
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01-01-2023, 07:29 PM
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I rented a Dodge Challenger for two weeks in Los Angeles and it had a solid 9800 or so miles (not kilometres.) Overall, I couldn't find anything wrong with the car. I went through the car quite thoroughly and couldn't find anything obvious. I quite enjoyed the car and it was quite comfortable for long drives. I'd buy one.
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01-01-2023, 07:33 PM
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Forget Alfa, look at that jump to Land Rover. No wonder they're all pavement princesses, you need to stay within BCAA coverage at all times.
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01-01-2023, 07:49 PM
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I posted about this before but Land Rovers are such a POS. A colleague of mine keeps buying them despite the fact they always fail on him while his wife's Lexus RX has 300 something thousand kilometres on it and has had nothing but routine maintenance.
Fun fact: I found out a few weeks ago said Land Rover loving colleague has multiple road side assistance subscriptions. CAA (we are in Ontario) raised his premiums and warned him they will not insure him next year. 
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01-01-2023, 08:10 PM
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Wait no one here has mention why Honda is more problematic than BMW or Mercedes 
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01-01-2023, 08:20 PM
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Land Rover is such an odd company. Let's build a brand around off-road capability yet make it less reliable than a Jag. Every story I've heard about someone owning one has been nothing but a horrible experience.
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01-01-2023, 08:20 PM
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because Turbo
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01-02-2023, 01:51 PM
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anything UK is junk.
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01-02-2023, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes
I posted about this before but Land Rovers are such a POS. A colleague of mine keeps buying them despite the fact they always fail on him while his wife's Lexus RX has 300 something thousand kilometres on it and has had nothing but routine maintenance.
Fun fact: I found out a few weeks ago said Land Rover loving colleague has multiple road side assistance subscriptions. CAA (we are in Ontario) raised his premiums and warned him they will not insure him next year. |
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Land Rover is such an odd company. Let's build a brand around off-road capability yet make it less reliable than a Jag. Every story I've heard about someone owning one has been nothing but a horrible experience.
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I’m almost certain both Range Rover and Rolls Royce top the list of unreliability over the course of their ownership however both have the highest brand loyalty lol
Just goes to show that you’ve probably got enough money that you don’t worry about your constant visits to the service dept, or you’re the type of knob who can only be driving a RR lol
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01-02-2023, 05:10 PM
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If I'm seriously going to make a judgement on a car, I research down to the trim level. I've seen cars make or break it just because of a poor tranny or motor used in one trim level and not the other.
Other than that, I'm just making judgements based on an emblem.
It's kind of sad how people still do this, but it is what it is.
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01-02-2023, 05:16 PM
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Me waiting for Elon to do something stupid so we can go back to making fun of him
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01-02-2023, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Badhobz
What panel gaps get better over time ? I’m not too impressed with JD power but what else can you use as a benchmark in this industry.
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Revscene, gulolol.............
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01-02-2023, 07:14 PM
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RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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what are you guys talking about...my land rovers are reliable
like all British cars, they always start up, driving is questionable though
I got spare parts, a jack , rave manual and tools to take apart my truck in my trunk though 
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01-02-2023, 07:15 PM
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Me waiting for Elon to do something stupid so we can go back to making fun of him
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Didn’t he call some dude with only 500 followers as having a small Dick ? What a trolololool
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01-03-2023, 01:31 PM
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I’m almost certain both Range Rover and Rolls Royce top the list of unreliability over the course of their ownership however both have the highest brand loyalty lol
Just goes to show that you’ve probably got enough money that you don’t worry about your constant visits to the service dept, or you’re the type of knob who can only be driving a RR lol
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I've got a family friend who is a die hard Jaaaaaaaag owner. He literally buys two of every model he decides to own because, and I swear I'm not making this up, he still wants to drive one when the other is inevitably in the shop for weeks at a time. He's been doing this for decades at this point now as well. Never learns; or, at least, doesn't want to.
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