Vancouver's Real Estate Market

[rb]

Envious of people that are able to spend once they've have it. I can't shake the nickel and dime attitude lol

[EvoFire]

Ultimately it's less about the school you went to but rather your mindset and the ppl you associate yourself with. Values taught by parents help too, a lot of the "poor" parents had good values that still drives us today.

The values I talk about is knowing to not carry dumb debt (cc debt), eating properly(kind of), them trying to not drink/smoke/swear in front of us even though as we grew up we knew they did it. Some are more successful than others.

Obviously being in a "better" school would mean you have a larger group of "good ppl" to choose from, but from Vancouver proper or even Burnaby and Richmond the "bad schools" are truly hard to find, my experience outside of Van/bby/Rch is non-existent. The only really bad schools I could think of was the rumoured gang connections in JO and Byrne Creek when they split out from Burnaby South. And these are all anecdotal. Keep in mind richer =/= better.

I've noticed the same trend with divorces. Divorce rates are something like 30% but I only know one couple who's actually divorced. And the guy isn't even a good friend. People who would end up getting divorced tend to have developed their values and laid the groundwork for it earlier in life and like-minded people congregate.
This also kind of shows here in RS. We are all in our late 20s to maybe early 40s (not sure how MG1 got caught in here). We are mostly financially responsible (mostly dreaming about that 911, new or old). The bank owns our properties and we pay for the privilege of living there. We are, in a nutshell kind of similar in terms of finance and life values despite political values.

I remember a girl friend asked once not too long ago if dating a car guy was a good idea. I told her no we spend all of our money on dumb shit like exhausts, wheels, and coils. But in hindsight, actually, most of the car guys don't have exceptionally bad habits cause the car takes up most of our leisure money, and it also means we are all somewhat financially knowledgeable and responsible. It's again a value thing where we value the car over getting piss drunk on Granville on the weekend, or hitting drugs.

[68style]

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Damn... stabbed another car homie in the back

I don't know if I agree though, I'm divorced and I grew up around lots of good people... I just had a crazy insecure wife who wouldn't admit her problems/do anything about it and couldn't put up with it anymore.

I didn't hang out with degenerates and I'm not captain of some club of divorcees... just sounds like generalizing.

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by 68style

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Damn... stabbed another car homie in the back

I don't know if I agree though, I'm divorced and I grew up around lots of good people... I just had a crazy insecure wife who wouldn't admit her problems/do anything about it and couldn't put up with it anymore.

I didn't hang out with degenerates and I'm not captain of some club of divorcees... just sounds like generalizing.

Sorry you got lumped in, it is generalizing. I mean I'd say Hondaracer and I are very different in terms of values but we still talk shit on RS all the same, so that brush stroke can't paint everyone in the same colour. However stereotypes exists for a reason.

And there's always statistical outliers, you may have become one. And some times, like your wife for example, you may have just met the wrong person at the wrong time and you had nothing wrong with your values.

[68style]

Oh haha reading my message again I didn’t mean it was me you stabbed.. I was saying that in jest about the poor guy you told the girl not to date

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by 68style

Oh haha reading my message again I didn’t mean it was me you stabbed.. I was saying that in jest about the poor guy you told the girl not to date

Oh that guy. Yes sorry guy I cockblocked you

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

LOL!

I'm just glad to have:
1. Made it out of high school alive
2. Managed to (barely) graduate high school
3. Somehow managed to get past a post secondary education (still unbelievable)

Although to think back, would we have done better at another school, or as Gerbs put it, "a good school?" I don't know, and truthfully, I don't think it matters. We turned out okay. I think.

My idea of a "good school" was having any post secondary education in 2005 - 2015. Since that put you ahead of the majority that didn't have any.

I failed Langara and got booted out lol, so I don't have any actual experience of what a good education is like or what it gets you. My reference point are people I meet from respectable schools and they didn't seem to have much trouble with business jobs post graduation compared to BCIT. I noticed that I got filtered out by a lot of great companies and probably would never be considered at certain companies because my school wasn't "respectable"


https://imgur.com/a/bg7dFqd

[sonick]

In my experience hiring and management, BCIT graduates are very capable.

[SSM_DC5]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

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that kind of memory stays with you. So when i see people my age driving nice cars, buying houses and shit, im genuinely happy for them. I dont think their kids will go through what we went through (ripping off bus drivers by dropping in 3 nickles instead of 3 quarters).

You ballin' back then with your nickels. What was the age requirement for free transit? Less than 5 years? I was 5 years old for like 10 years maybe more.

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by sonick

In my experience hiring and management, BCIT graduates are very capable.

I found the top 10% to be super capable, all my friends from school are doing extremely well but they all came from UBC and have strong technical and social backgrounds.

The one's that aren't doing well are the one's that went there as a first time in post-secondary. But I'm talking strictly business grads. If you're in trades, you're super capable.

Originally Posted by SSM_DC5

You ballin' back then with your nickels. What was the age requirement for free transit? Less than 5 years? I was 5 years old for like 10 years maybe more.

Same, I was told to hop on as a kid and act clueless and keep walking

[bcrdukes]

Originally Posted by sonick

In my experience hiring and management, BCIT graduates are very capable.

My experience is annecdotal at best, based on my own experiences, but hiring a BCIT grad was the most difficult for a number of general reasons:

1. They had the most real-world experience and knowledge
2. There were very few of them in comparison to UBC or SFU grads (or other nearby colleges)

As a result, they were often swooped up by other companies so I only managed to interview, but never able to turn around fast enough to beat other employers to a job offer due to a combination of internal red tape and processes.

One thing I find about BCIT is that they have a smaller network of potential employers as compared to say UBC and SFU, so perhaps this is what Gerbs means by "good school." By virtue of having more graduates from UBC and SFU, so does your network of alumni, or rather, familiarity of recruits/talent.

By far, BCIT grads have been the most elusive people for me to recruit. I've only ever recruited one and has climbed the ranks faster than everyone I've hired.

[blkgsr]

we get a lot of project coordinators out of BCIT. many move up to PM's after a few years

[bcrdukes]

Who is "we?" (So I can steal them after you work them)

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by Gerbs

I failed Langara and got booted out lol, so I don't have any actual experience of what a good education is like or what it gets you. My reference point are people I meet from respectable schools and they didn't seem to have much trouble with business jobs post graduation compared to BCIT. I noticed that I got filtered out by a lot of great companies and probably would never be considered at certain companies because my school wasn't "respectable"


https://imgur.com/a/bg7dFqd

It’s not all about education either. I mean graduating from a good school gives you a better chance but not synonymous with success.

I went to langara first then sfu (university transfer to save money) then got a shit ass history & philosophy degree. This useless piece of paper did nothing for me. What ultimately got me where I am was playing mmorpg (lineage 2) with a guy who worked at CN. He got me in as a conductor and then I moved up to port manager (take that mom!!! Who says playing games is pointless).

Having a piece of paper that says I can write essays did diddly squat. 45k of student loans too (that I used to invest instead of schooling).

[SSM_DC5]

Is this site right with $123k a year on average? So if I can earn that much I can have a corolla too?

https://www.erieri.com/salary/job/po...mbia/vancouver

[6thGear.]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

My experience is annecdotal at best, based on my own experiences, but hiring a BCIT grad was the most difficult for a number of general reasons:

1. They had the most real-world experience and knowledge
2. There were very few of them in comparison to UBC or SFU grads (or other nearby colleges)

As a result, they were often swooped up by other companies so I only managed to interview, but never able to turn around fast enough to beat other employers to a job offer due to a combination of internal red tape and processes.

One thing I find about BCIT is that they have a smaller network of potential employers as compared to say UBC and SFU, so perhaps this is what Gerbs means by "good school." By virtue of having more graduates from UBC and SFU, so does your network of alumni, or rather, familiarity of recruits/talent.

By far, BCIT grads have been the most elusive people for me to recruit. I've only ever recruited one and has climbed the ranks faster than everyone I've hired.

BCIT focuses on job placement when a student is close to graduating or post grad. It's 1 of their missions to help students get into workforce faster. Downside is the companies hire them as students and you as a manager have to live through the pain of them possibly fucking up along the way.

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by SSM_DC5

Is this site right with $123k a year on average? So if I can earn that much I can have a corolla too?

https://www.erieri.com/salary/job/po...mbia/vancouver

Yes that’s right. Average port manager pay is around that. It ranges from around 100k to high end of 300k depending on if your private or public. Port of Vancouver pays well.

[Hakkaboy]

Originally Posted by 68style

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Damn... stabbed another car homie in the back

I don't know if I agree though, I'm divorced and I grew up around lots of good people... I just had a crazy insecure wife who wouldn't admit her problems/do anything about it and couldn't put up with it anymore.

I didn't hang out with degenerates and I'm not captain of some club of divorcees... just sounds like generalizing.

So you are saying it's all her fault and it's not you, right? uh huh...

[Traum]

Originally Posted by sonick

In my experience hiring and management, BCIT graduates are very capable.

I'd say it depends on what field the graduate is from.

In my field (computer science), the trend that BCIT graduates have a lot of practical / hands-on experience continues. That makes them excellent candidates for certain positions -- technicians of different kinds, certain types of system administrators. But they also tend to be poor programmers, QA/testers, or things that require more theoretical understanding.

Then again, there are tons of ugrad graduates that can't program or do QA work even if their lives depended on it LOL~

[yray]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Yes that’s right. Average port manager pay is around that. It ranges from around 100k to high end of 300k depending on if your private or public. Port of Vancouver pays well.

yay, now I know someone to complain to when my containers are stuck

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

It’s not all about education either. I mean graduating from a good school gives you a better chance but not synonymous with success.

I went to langara first then sfu (university transfer to save money) then got a shit ass history & philosophy degree. This useless piece of paper did nothing for me. What ultimately got me where I am was playing mmorpg (lineage 2) with a guy who worked at CN. He got me in as a conductor and then I moved up to port manager (take that mom!!! Who says playing games is pointless).

Having a piece of paper that says I can write essays did diddly squat. 45k of student loans too (that I used to invest instead of schooling).

Yeah, I am sure we are all exemptions to that rule otherwise none of us would be doing as well as we are.

I also met employers via games like Dota, League and Poker! Way easier to secure jobs or contracts when you're able to connect at that level vs having a piece of paper.

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by yray

yay, now I know someone to complain to when my containers are stuck

Noooooo I’m a janitor. Leave me alone

[bcrdukes]

$123K? That's barely enough to afford dinner! Badhobz is raking in at least DOUBLE so he can afford lunch!

[bcrdukes]

Originally Posted by 6thGear.

BCIT focuses on job placement when a student is close to graduating or post grad. It's 1 of their missions to help students get into workforce faster. Downside is the companies hire them as students and you as a manager have to live through the pain of them possibly fucking up along the way.

Yes, this is exactly it.

I reach out on LinkedIn, contact Student Serviecs, and some shit ass company I've never heard of swoops them up and I can't get these kids to change their mind and most of the time, they tell me they "feel bad" for even talking to me because the school helped them get them a job. They don't own it to anybody than themselves because they paid for their education, not BCIT!

[Hondaracer]

Gave BCIT like 100k for 2 diplomas and 2 technical certificates and then never used any of them lol.. uhg

Btw.. I don’t care if you went to John Oliver or Whalley secondary, nobody in the lower mainland grew up “in the hood” lol