Israel/Palestine Conflict (2023)

[westopher]

Canada now 1 of 7 countries including Israel, US, Hungary, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, and Nairu to vote against the resolution condemning illegal Israeli settlement in Palestine. 145 countries on the other side.
What a fucking embarrassing thing to be a part of.
Hungary basically has a fascist government, Marshall Islands and Nairu might as well be made up places, no one knows anything about Micronesia, Israel isn't going to condemn themselves, so that basically just leaves the world police and their sock puppet (us) supporting Israel. Gross.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by westopher

Canada now 1 of 7 countries including Israel, US, Hungary, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, and Nairu to vote against the resolution condemning illegal Israeli settlement in Palestine. 145 countries on the other side.
What a fucking embarrassing thing to be a part of.

That's disgusting, esp given how Turd has been giving giving these brief TV interviews on how Israel's military action hurting Palestinians is deeply concerning. And he was saying it with such drama teacher acting gusto as if he really meant it with all that virtue signaling.

[Hondaracer]

They’re our allies bro

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

They’re our allies bro

You asked why Canada was siding with Israel, and you got the answer. Glad you understand now, but it's weird you keep repeating it

If you disagree, make your voice heard instead of acting like a retard on forums maybe

Everyone here who says it's gross or they are disgusted by it should be doing the same thing. You're in a country where you can do stuff like that, so go do it.

[JDMDreams]

^^ also in a country that shoots at Jewish schools

[Traum]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

If you disagree, make your voice heard instead of acting like a retard on forums maybe

Everyone here who says it's gross or they are disgusted by it should be doing the same thing. You're in a country where you can do stuff like that, so go do it.

The problem these days (at least in Canada) is -- it seems like the only thing democracy allows us to do is to voice our dissatisfaction, and that is pretty much the end of it. Expression your opinion to your elected political representative is pretty much useless because all they do is follow the party line. It doesn't matter how sound your reasoning is. If building a bike lane right in front of the VGH ER entrance is what the mayor wants to do -- I forgot whether it was Kennedy Stewart or Moonbeam that put it there -- no amount of complaining is going to reverse that. Or in this case, because Israel is "our ally", and because the US wants us to tag along for the ride, our PM follows through with the virtue signaling while our UN representative does the exact opposite thing.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

You asked why Canada was siding with Israel, and you got the answer. Glad you understand now, but it's weird you keep repeating it

If you disagree, make your voice heard instead of acting like a retard on forums maybe

Everyone here who says it's gross or they are disgusted by it should be doing the same thing. You're in a country where you can do stuff like that, so go do it.

So explain to me why Canada votes against the resolution, you seem to be an expert on the matter.

Please enlighten me on the reason they are one of those 7 countries

And not just they are our allies or this simple cop out BS, please explain to me why Canada sees to support them when many of their other “allies” do not and Canada has nothing to gain from it. They could easily vote for it as that’s the stupid take they’ve had all along! The two state solution! Lol ffs..

Why would I do anything for this country that doesn’t even know where it stands? I should go out and support a pro-Palestinian rally so I can be labeled some terrorist supporter? Yea right.

https://torontosun.com/news/provinci...0de317f7b/amp/

[Badhobz]

bro whats the point of arguing with some guy (who's actually in Hong Kong and likely wont ever come back to canad-er) online about some shit that has no relevance? As long as we are tied to the hip with the USA, we will always do what Big Brother does.

You talk like we have an option here. Protest all you want, morality isn't a consideration for global politics. Its always who you are economically and socially tied to.

go watch some porno on your new TV and wank it

[hud 91gt]

I was going to say, what’s our alternative? We’re tied to the hip. Shall we go to the other side of the schoolyard and find a new group of friends, when the big bad bully lives right next door?

The only way we can make our own independent decisions is being….
Independant.

[Hondaracer]

It has far more to do about who’s toes you’re stepping on within Canada than it does supporting the US.

[mikemhg]

I somewhat agree with Honda on this one, yes the US is our ally but Canada and the US have had disagreements in the past where we didn't outright support the US's endeavors.

Iraq is primary example.

I give credit to Obama, he was pretty hardline with Israel, I'd really be curious what type of stance he'd be taking on this whole situation if he was in power right now. Biden has a lot of ex-Obama officials in his cabinet and they're not happy with him.

For someone like Trudeau to espouse these "virtues", he sure doesn't put his money where his mouth is. The reality is he's being feckless. The AIPAC are a powerful funder and policy body in North America, he doesn't want any of that smoke.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

So explain to me why Canada votes against the resolution, you seem to be an expert on the matter.

Please enlighten me on the reason they are one of those 7 countries

And not just they are our allies or this simple cop out BS, please explain to me why Canada sees to support them when many of their other “allies” do not and Canada has nothing to gain from it. They could easily vote for it as that’s the stupid take they’ve had all along! The two state solution! Lol ffs..

Why would I do anything for this country that doesn’t even know where it stands? I should go out and support a pro-Palestinian rally so I can be labeled some terrorist supporter? Yea right.

https://torontosun.com/news/provinci...0de317f7b/amp/

You already know

And BTW when I say "this is why I think they are doing this" it doesn't mean I support it or agree with it. I think that's why you're getting so angry at me, and even good brother mikemhg said something. I'm not on that side at all

[Hondaracer]

Great response. Take a seat bro

I’m not angry at all, I just think it’s completely asinine and ignorant to think the reasoning that Canada supports Israel like they have been is just because they are “allies”

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Great response. Take a seat bro

I’m not angry at all, I just think it’s completely asinine and ignorant to think the reasoning that Canada supports Israel like they have been is just because they are “allies”

omg I thought you actually learned something for a change... ffs

[Badhobz]

This is Hondaracer. just replace america w/ canada and boom.

[Hondaracer]

Justin does everything in his power to stop the killing of civilians and children without saying cease-fire and his buddy Benji just fucking shits on him lol

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/1...rder-crossing/

"Prime Minister Trudeau, Israel is defending itself in difficult conditions against a brutal terrorist organization while trying to rescue babies, children, women and men who are being held hostage," Lapid wrote on X.

"If Canada ever found itself under a sustained and brutal attack like the one we face now, you would find Israel by your side," he added.
"We expect the same support."

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Justin does everything in his power to stop the killing of civilians and children without saying cease-fire and his buddy Benji just fucking shits on him lol

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/1...rder-crossing/

The local Palestinians are shitting on Turd too lol. -took about 100 cops to protect the PM from the protesters' chanting "Ceasefire now!" when Turd was trying to have dinner at Vij's.

Some of those motherfuckers assaulted an officer too. No surprise:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/1...demonstrators/

27-year-old Coquitlam man was arrested for assaulting a police officer. Vancouver police claim the man punched an officer in the face and “had her eyes gouged while dispersing protesters.”

The officer received medical treatment for injuries to her face, however, Addison says it’s yet to be determined if she is going to have to miss work as a result of the incident.

Do those pro-Palestinian demonstrators really think that Turd would ask the Israeli PM for a ceasefire?

[JDMDreams]

I bet they won't be yelling cease fire if their kids and family got shot up, killed and kid napped as hostages by their neighbors.

[CivicBlues]

What a surprise, pro-Hamas supporters attack a FEMALE police officer. Just a friendly reminder a lot of these guys are probably huge misogynists as well.

[mikemhg]

I'll be the first to say fuck those knuckle-dragging cocksuckers.

The fuck are they even protesting Trudeau while he's having dinner anyways? We're not the US, we're not Israel, Canada is a fart in the wind when it comes to middle east foreign policy.

They're barking up the wrong damn tree.

[whitev70r]

JT gets heckled and harassed at home in Canada by Pro Palestinian libs and he gets chided publicly by Netanyahu abroad.

[SkinnyPupp]

If you want Canada to stop, you're going to have to convince them to break ties with America.

Good luck with that!

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

JT gets heckled and harassed at home in Canada by Pro Palestinian libs and he gets chided publicly by Netanyahu abroad.

He can’t go out in public period.

You know you’ve done a lot right when that’s the case. He’s worth 100+ mill though so I’m sure he’ll be on some private island once he finally abandons Canada completely

[westopher]

Trudeau is fucked. This was the nail in the coffin. He alienated the right along time ago, honestly, to his credit, in many ways, by at least bringing up some injustices with the lgbtq community, indigenous, and other racially marginalized groups, however, he didn't really deliver as much as he implied they would, now, he's completely alienated the left by clowning himself by not standing up for anything on the public stage by denouncing the indiscriminate killing of Palestinians.

[Traum]

Well... the polls are now saying that PeePee is gonna take a huge majority in parliament if the election were to be held today, so at this point, it seems like both Turd and the Libs are doomed. Even if Turd were to step down now, it is already too late for public sentiments to swing back towards to the Libs enough to turn the tide.

The ironic thing is -- it seems to me that it isn't until recently when Turd and the federal gov have finally actually started to do something meaningful to address various long standing problems. Had they been more sensitive to public needs and sentiments, and did exactly the same thing as they are doing now, but at a much earlier time -- say, 12 - 18 months ago, soon after they were re-elected -- I'm sure they'd be polling far, far better now.

But the current failings are all of their own doing. And even though I'd really hate to see PeePee become PM -- and with a huge majority in Parliament too -- it looks like that's the reality we will see in 2 years.